Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/07/23

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Subject: Re: Some thoughts on the R8
From: Gerard Captijn <captyng@vtx.ch>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:08:57 +0200

At 03:54 AM 23/07/1997 -0400, you wrote:
>Frank Kemper wrote :
>
>>>I am very sorry, but all in all, you sound a little bit stupid to me.<<
>
>I don=B4t believe this is right tone for a civilized conversation. You
>behaved like this on the CompuServe Photoforum; there is no need to repeat
>your attacks here.
>
>>>FotoMagazin is the leading german amateur photographers magazin. It is
>made
>>>in the land where at least five camera manufacturers (Leica, Rollei,
>Minox,
>>>Linhof, Noble) are actually designing and making cameras (how many camera
>>>makers - which make cameras in at least four digit production numbers -
>are
>>>there in the US, by the way?).
>
>I wonder what the connection between the number of camera manufacturers in
>a country and the quality of the photo mags is. fotoMAGAZIN doesn=B4t=
 really
>excel in terms of competence. As you have been employed there your opinion
>will certainly be different.
>
>Carsten
>

Please keep in mind that what's insulting or not, is very much culturally
determined. What is a normal way of expressing oneself in the US could well
be close to an insult in France. What's OK in Germany could be insulting in
the UK. A situation with many different nationalities on a forum like the
LUG should be managed intelligently to avoid discussions like the above.=20

My suggestion is to consider the fond (the intrinsic message) and disregard
the form (how it is said) as much as possible. I am certain that the
discussion around our friend Oddvik was more related to the way he said
things than to what he specifically said.

I liked Frank's articles on electronic imaging in Photomagazine and,
although Frank and I do not agree on the value of the BAS lens tests, I
like his contributions to the LUG as well.

Gerard Captijn.