Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/12/08

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Subject: Re: Elmar 90/4 M or LTM
From: "Michiel Fokkema" <mfokkema@pop3.worldaccess.nl>
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 19:47:53 +0000

> Why is the Elmar 90/4 so inexpensive used?  Was this lens an
> unimpressive performer?  Can anyone compare it directly to the Jupiter
> 85/2?  On the Kiev page (http://users.aol.com/kievrpt/35rf.htm), all
> these ex-Soviet LTM lenses show up with surprisingly low resolution
> numbers in line pairs/mm, yet I hear great things about them.  Were
> the old Elmars sharper than the new Jupiters at equivalent apertures?

Hello Patrick,

I bought a black 2.0/85 a month ago for $60,-, for this money it is a 
great lens. At widest aperture it doesn't seem to have much contrast 
but I'm still testing this. At smaller apertures this does improve a 
lot off course and from 4.0 it is very good. but you don't buy a 2.0 
to use it at 4.0. The Elmar 90 is a very good performer and 
especcialy with portraits will show more of the leica glow than the 
jupiter. A post war coated elmar can be bought in europe for about  
$200,- thats more than the jupiter but it is better built and much 
smaller. With leica lenses you will have a better position towards 
the seller if something is wrong with the lens but there never seems 
to be a problen with these lenses. With the Jupiter you will never 
know wat you buy until you use it. I have also a chrome 2.0/85 wich 
suffers from so much flare that I can't use it.

When you buy a jupiter which works well, I think you will have the 
same value for money compared to the elmar 4.0.
Nevertheless I advice a Leicalens.The 4.0/90 is good but I would buy 
a first design 2.8/90 if you have the money. When money is not a 
problem at all and you really need the 2.0 buy a summicron.

Otherwise buy the jupiter but make sure to test it before you really 
buy it.

Greetings,

                                    Michiel.