Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/10/04

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To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us, dlevy@worldy.com
Subject: Re: Leica CL
From: Pablo_Mendoza@ROOSEVELT-PROVOST.ucsd.edu
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:09:00 -0700

     When I had both cameras, I got a number of reports from when it was 
     initially produced.  When I find the reports, I will provide a listing 
     of all the sources so that you can go to your local libraries to read 
     up on the cameras.  
     
     Also, there is a book by Theo Kisselbach, "The Leica CL," which goes 
     into the capabilities of the camera.  I still have mine, though I have 
     sold my CLs.  Its a good book on Leica Technique.
     
     Pablo 
     pmendoza@ucsd.edu


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Subject: Leica CL
Author:  dlevy@worldy.com at @UCSD
Date:    03/10/1996 8:34 PM


I thought I'd just say that I am amazed at the response to the query I made 
concerning the CL and M5 cameras.
     
My isp was down for a few days, so I may not have received all the 
responses. I did not see any regarding owner/users of the M5, though a few 
who appeared to consider it at one time or another felt it was too large or 
out of proportion.
     
1 reply appears to be from a camera service person who from a construction 
point did not like the CL stating it definitely not be a Leica. He did not 
state whether he was an owner/user of one, but since he appears to have 
experience in their maintenance/reliability, I won't discard his response.
     
Several replies mixed the CL issue with another question I raised about the 
same time which was the definition of a "professional" camera. Surprisingly, 
there were those who appeared not to own/use the CL who claimed it was not a 
'professional' camera for several reasons most notably related to its not 
having the same functionality as an M series. However, there were as many 
responses from writers who used the CL professionally. Maybe the issue of 
'professional' camera is more amorphous than originally thought.
     
Of the replies, there were a few who had experienced problems with the meter 
sticking. Since this is not unusual for meter movements AND many more had 
indicated no problems, it may be that the camera is hardier than its 
reported to be. In a review of the CL, when it first came out mentioned the 
meter movement was not as well protected from dust as some other cameras, 
but it did not seem to be a problem to the reviewer.
     
I'm happy that the response has lead to at least 1 person seeking more 
information about it for the stated purpose of purchasing it; another may 
dust his off (hopefully to use vs. sell) and it has broadened out to 
feedback regarding the errant offspring/sibling from Minolta, the CLE.
     
Over the next few days, I will try to quantify the responses and report them 
to the group. If you have further comments related to the CL, M5, or now 
CLE, please write them so I may include them.
     
     
>
Brian Levy, J.D.
Toronto, Ont.
dlevy@worldy.com
     
     
     
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