Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/09/05

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To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: New Russian Fake Leicas
From: ioannis@sce.carleton.ca (Ioannis Lambadaris)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:20:54 -0400 (EDT)

> I absolutely guarantee you, however, that there is a thriving cottage
> Russian industry producing inventive Leica "Replicas" even while you are
> reading this.  If anything one wants a few, with the warning that
> workmanship is suspect and that there will be no returns,  I can supply
> them.

For the last 10 years I have been collecting and reconditioning 
Russian Leica copies which I buy overseas. 

In numerous occasions I have dissassembled Zorki and FED cameras to the
level of changing curtains or lubricating the curtain drums. Regarding
the workmanship I can say that it is very good in almost all cases
and this may be due to the fact theat these cameras have a very
simple construction essentially the same with pre IIIC screwmount Leicas.

The basic tune up that is needed in most cases is 
a. Complete lubrication (Quality of lubricants is low and they get sticky over time)
b. Speed readjustment (Almost no Russian camera has correct timing!)
c. Rangefinder adjustment and collimation.

Russian cameras have more adjustments for the rangefinder compared
to screwmount Leicas!!! Therefore both close and far focussing can
be adjusted very accuratelly.

However the speed adjustment may be problematic and this is the price 
that is paid because of the simplicity of the construction. NO 
Russian copy has a brake for the closing curtain. This results 
in uneven travelling speed for the two curtains which can be 
up to 1 stop i.e. the curtain travels at a slower speed when 
it starts moving and accelerates at the end of the frame. This is
true of the early Leicas (pre IIIC) and it was corrected in the
later ones (after and including the IIIC) which also included
ball bearings in their curtain and film advance drums along
with a BRAKE (of elliptical shape) for the opening curtain which
serves two purposes: regulate and ensure uniform speed of the
curtains during their travel and avoiding bouncing of the opening
curtain at the end of its travel (this may be possible due to 
the delicate curtain drums with ball bearings!). The curtain speed deviation
in a IIIC or a IIIF may be as low as 1/4 of a stop. 
 
As a summary Russian cameras are interesting and with a good
tuneup can be VERY reliable and they can last. However in terms of
exposure uniformity they may not satisfy a number of users. 
Nevertheless, personally they give me great satisfaction when I
use them for shooting BW film which is more forgiving to 
exposure errors.  

> 
> Imagine an inventive engineer working in a small shop, free to make new
> "Lika" designs to fit his imagination.   He makes small quantities,
> sends them to the US for dollars, and goes on to invent more.   At
> anyone time some of the versions may be unavailable, but in there place
> are more variations no one has ever seen.  
> 
> The Likas seems to be based upon the Fed IIIA copy.   Versions which I
> have seen are:
> The top plates are engraved "Leica" etc, the lenses engraved "Elmar"
> etc.
> 
> 
> Stephen Gandy
> 


-- 
Ioannis Lambadaris
Associate Professor
Dept. of Systems & Computer Engineering
Carleton University              Phone: +1 613 520-2600(ext. 1974(o), 1951(lab))
1125 Colonel By Drive            Fax:   +1 613 520-5727
Ottawa, Ontario K1S 5B6          Email: ioannis@sce.carleton.ca
CANADA 
Web: http://www.sce.carleton.ca/faculty/lambadaris.html

I'm all for this -- the continual re-offering of the tantalizing
pleasure of ownership which can only be released in sporadic ecstasies
of acquisition, forms the very basis of our consumerist system--- and I
would have to be some kind of pinko socialist not to be all for it!!


In reply to: Message from Stephen Gandy <cameras@jetlink.net> (New Russian Fake Leicas)