Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/07/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 04:59 PM 7/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >Well, Mr Love makes quite a few interesting points, but I dissent, strongly. > >I have owned a Honda; I do drive a Volkswagen -- and I've owned five others >before this. I've also owned a slew of British cars and still own one of >them. I do prefer quality to, well, average mediocrity. BRITISH cars? If by "quality" you mean "has interesting character," then I guess so. But anyone who ever had a British sports car knows that the true Prince of Darkness is Lucas! One could go on for days about Jaguar and Rover's disasters here in the US market--and they were deserved on the basis of quality. >The Japanese have proven themselves experts in figuring market dynamics -- >they analyze the market, figure what is needed for maximum sales, and go for >it. This is the heart of free enterprise, and more power to them. (Their >corporate structuring, hidden tarriffs, and labour practices are another >matter, entirely.) But, by aiming at the average, they avoid the extremes >of quality -- and I'm enough of a snob to want the greatest amount of >quality I can afford. I'ts certainly true that they are marketing masters. They certainly do sell a lot of middle of the road cars. But--avoid the extremes of quality? They avoid low quality pretty well. As for the highest (read: top of field, technically exciting, full of character)--have you ever heard of the Nissan 300 ZX? The Mazda RX-7? The Honda (Acura in US) NX (declared in many sports car magazines as the best in the world regardless of price, most emphatically including Ferraris, Porsches, etc.)? The Mazda Millenia? The Lexus (Toyota) LS 400, which when it came out was rated the equal of Mercedes products costing twice as much? At a lower price level, how about the Honda (Acura) Integra GS-R? And the only true British sports car now available in the US is made in Japan--the Mazda Miata. The only problem with that car is that it's so boring, because the lights don't go out suddenly, parts don't fall off, etc. (Leicaphiles may remember "Popular Photography's" comparison of the M6 to a classic sports car--sad to say, at the time Germany didn't make one!) >Japanese cameras are okay -- but they aim for the middle, and I want that >extreme of quality. I have a Swiss mechanical watch, American, German, and >Russian telescopes, I smoke British pipe tobacco in an Irish pipe, I drink >Scots whiskey and British beer. I shoot pictures with Leica, Rollei, Zeiss >Ikon, and Hassie cameras. I confess I own a Canon EOS 10s, with a bunch of >nifty auto-focus prime lenses -- and I may use it for five rolls of film a >year. Mediocrity, after a while, gets boring, though its low price may make >it attractive to some. It strikes me as odd that you would choose a mid-priced Canon instead of the best, since you want to own the "extreme" in quality. I bet those lenses are not the pro-oriented "L" series either. Whatever else you might say, the Canon EOS-1 is not "mediocre," nor are its best lenses. Your real beef here seems to be that Canon and Nikon choose to make mass-market products, while Leica does not, and so must be better. But Canon and Nikon are also in fierce competition for the high-quality market, and leapfrog each other in innovation all the time. Maybe you'd be happier if Canon called their cheaper stuff by another name! And what does Volkswagen make, anyway? >There's an old saw about the regret of poor quality surviving the thrill of >a great price -- and THAT is one of my several objections to buying >Japanese. I simply want the best, and Japan rarely produces the best. I'm sorry, but I just think this is a stereotype. Japan produces many outstanding products--the post World War II picture of Japan as uncreative copiers who make cheap products is long gone, to any objective observer. This has nothing whatever to do with liking their trade practices, or their values. And, >for that matter, when Japan DOES produce a truly competitive product, as >they do with telescope optics, they will not sell these in this country, as >they cost about 20% more than comparable European and domestic products. > Your nation and the EEC both protect many industries by levying unequal tarrifs--I'm no expert on telescope optics, but I'll bet that's the difference; that's how you keep Japanese car sales down in GB. >Marc > > > >Marc James Small FAX: +540/343-7315 >Thalla, a Bhallagair! > I apologize to those of you tired of car arguments, and will stop (unless grossly provoked). I also hope that the readers realize that the comments above come from someone who owns NO Canon or Nikon products, and whose 35 mm. equipment is Leica M and R. This all started out of worry for Leica's future, among other things. Charles E. Love, Jr. 517 Warren Place Ithaca, New York 14850 607-272-7338 CEL14@CORNELL.EDU