[Leica] [Leica} Tina's Drobos... Update: All loaded.

Tue Jun 4 19:36:52 PDT 2024

I run three sets of backups - not just photographs, but
books/music/documents as well - I do not use any fancy backup software, but
just physically copy the data to external HDD, both wired boxes and
portable ones, usually of 4-5 TB each with 3.2 ports - which normally
ensures a transfer rate of 100+MBPS, and with SSDs can go past 200MBPS. My
total backup data has touched 13 TB recently. This is the KISS method of
backup, applied after a lot of grief with NAS of various makes, mostly
related to service issues in India, and Chennai in particular. I rotate the
external disks every 3-4 years in a staggered manner.

The first set is kept with me, and gets updated weekly.

The second set is kept with my son, who lives close by, and gets updated
monthly.

The third set is kept in a bank locker and gets updated every 3-4 months,
depending on when I got to the branch, a rare occurrence in these days of
online banking.

This does entail some discipline to get it done, but that's about it. No
real work as the incremental backups run peacefully in the background.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 9:13 AM Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> There is a lot more to this than it looks like...
>
> I agree 100% with Jayanand.  You are trusting someone with your images.
> If they fail as a company, so do your images.
>
> But there are a bunch of questions you need to answer before you get to
> the decision of which Cloud solution you should use.....
>
> Why do you want a backup?  Is it a business database that you make $$$
> from (Tina) ?  Is it so save it for your Kids after you are pushing up
> daisies?  Are you a hoarder?  Are you afraid of losing these files if your
> computer/HDD fails?  If your house goes up in flames?  The records are not
> Images but Business records ( think IRS problems)?  This sets up th evalue
> judgement... how important are the images (records) in the first place?
>
> You have gotten past that and decide you want to preserve them,,,
>
> The rule you should be looking at is to make that copy, update it often,
> and KEEP IT AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
>
> Read that twice!
>
> I am going to pose different methods of where to locate the backups...
>
> In a bank vault.  Good idea.  The most inconvenient.  You need to copy
> often...  Do you really want to go to your bank often to keep those updated
> files safe?
>
> Keep a copy at your Mom's ( Dad's, kid's, etc ) house.  Get two HDD, swap
> them often.  One is being copied, the other is the last copy.  A great
> solution. Cheap. (about $200 for two drives of 5TB each)  But you still
> need to visit to swap old for new backup HDD..
>
> Running two NAS devices, with them connected by the Internet.  This is
> probably the best, but not cheapest solution.  I use this solution but I
> hand
> carry all the files back and forth from California to Hawaii.  If I had
> sufficient bandwidth, I would not hand carry, I would set it up to
> automatically transfer the files.... but so it goes.  I have 10MB per
> second bandwidth on one side and it can not be increased.
>
> Use a Cloud location... Most convenient.  Costs a bit each month which can
> add up.  THE LEAST secure.  You are not protected against their failure to
> protect your files from failure of their servers, or others' intrusion.
> And worse, they have your images in their database, subject to them all of
> a
> sudden deciding THEY OWN YOUR IMAGES.  ( Paranoia IS required).  Same
> bandwidth issues as the previous two NAS devices, but you need to figure
> out if
> the home BandWidth is the only consideration.  .
>
> OK.. Not techie, but certainly nerdy.....
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>
> On 6/3/2024 4:23 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
> > I am more interested in their accounting statements. They do very good
> work
> > from all accounts, but their services are largely irrelevant for 99.9% of
> > their customers who want to use their services as a backup (of anything).
> > The only item that matters is stability and longevity. Just a question to
> > put it into perspective - as companies, do you envisage Amazon or
> Backblaze
> > failing first?
> > Cheers
> > Jayanand
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:20 AM Adam Bridge via LUG<lug at leica-users.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Backblaze isn’t a new company - they’ve been around for quite a while
> and
> >> do good work. They aren’t Amazon, of course, but they are wide-spread
> >> geographically.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>> On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:19 PM, Nathan Wajsman<photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>> The price for Backblaze seems reasonable, but I do not like the
> >> automatic nature of the backup. And of course as always, one must
> consider
> >> whether the company will still be there in 5 years.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Nathan
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>> photo at frozenlight.eu
> >>>
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> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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