[Leica] Capture One - the road less followed?

[Aram Langhans]

Hi Douglas.  Late to the parade but here is what I have done.  I, too, 
have not taken the plunge to the Adobe Subscription but have stayed with 
Lightroom 6 and Photoshop CS6.  They do everything I want, even though 
the newer versions have things that might make my life easier, but not 
really do anything more than what I want to do.  But then I updated my 
Nikon from the D750, which played nice with LR6 to a Z7ii which does not 
play at all with LR6.  My solution was to use the free Adobe DNG 
converter.  I copy my Nikon RAW files to my computer, run the DNG 
converter and have it save the converted files to an "import" folder in 
LR6, then just open LR6 and synchronize my "import" folder and I am off 
and running. I really does not take much longer than importing directly 
using LR6 as I always converted my Nikon RAW files to DNG on import anyway.

And then the Q2 and Q3 but that was no big deal because they save RAW 
files as DNG files anyway and i can import them directly from the card 
using LR6.

So, that is my solution.  Free and works fine.  I guess if I formatted 
my SD card after each import i could just have the DNG converter read 
directly from the card and place the DNG files in my import folder 
negating the need to copy them to the computer. The Adobe DNG converter 
does not allow you to select individual photos to convert, just the folder.

Good luck with your choice.

Aram

On 7/27/2024 4:27:44, Douglas Barry wrote:
> Thanks Peter and John. Based on what's been said, I'd better avoid the 
> shock of the new and meekly embrace Adobe's hand in my wallet. I do 
> use my Sony too which is a consideration, so any steep learning curves 
> are not welcome to my now somewhat befuddled brain. For instance, the 
> new Fuji is no longer as intuitive to operate as its elder sibling and 
> seems to have infinitely wider range of options. I feel like crawling 
> into a corner and sucking my thumb...
>
> Douglas
>
> On 27/07/2024 09:55, Peter Klein via LUG wrote:
>> Douglas: What John says is correct, but there's a loophole.  You can 
>> still get a perpetual license for Capture One. It costs more than you 
>> will like. However, if you buy a perpetual license, you can use that 
>> version for as long as you want, providing your hardware and OS will 
>> support it.
>>
>> Are you are the type who likes to get regular fixes and enhancements? 
>> Are you lured by the prospect of ever-smarter so-called AI tools for 
>> removing Comrade Outov Favoroff from photos of last year's May Day 
>> parade? Then going the Adobe subscription route makes more sense. But 
>> it you like Capture One and are OK with the version you have, a 
>> perpetual license can also make sense. Just upgrade every 3-5 years 
>> rather than every time they dangle a shiny new thing, which may not 
>> always be so shiny once you dig into it.
>>
>> That's what I'm doing. I've used Capture One since it came free with 
>> my M8. I stayed with it because it did what I needed, and it kept me 
>> out of Adobe's "pay forever" model. Then recently, Capture One went 
>> to that same model. Many users  regarded this as a blatant betrayal 
>> (as did I) but hey, that's business. I fooled with both Darktable and 
>> Raw Therapee (open source alternatives), and decided it made more 
>> sense to stick with my old, perpetually licensed Capture One version 
>> 20. I think it's about five years old now.  I've invested a lot of 
>> time and knowledge in Capture One that I'd rather not throw away, 
>> even if their business practices offend me.
>>
>> If the next version has a real improvement over v. 20, I'll probably 
>> upgrade and use that for the next few years. I'd rather do that than 
>> have to learn a less convenient and capable open source program. Or 
>> be assimilated by the Borg, I mean Adobe, and still have to relearn 
>> everything anyway.
>>
>> OTOH, if you're already familiar with Adobe's tools and way of doing 
>> things, and are comfortable with them, then maybe just subscribing to 
>> Adobe makes sense. I did a sobering exercise recently, involving how 
>> much each software package would cost over my likely remaining 
>> lifetime. For those of us "of a certain age," the differences are not 
>> so great no matter what we do. So it makes sense to think about the 
>> value of your experience, skill and affinity with a particular product.
>>
>> One Fuji-specific wrinkle is that Capture One has always handled Fuji 
>> files better than Adobe. Do some Googling to see how much that might 
>> matter to you.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>> --Peter
>>
>>
>>> Capture One has gone to the same pricing model (albeit more 
>>> expensive) as
>>> Adobe AFAIK.
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>> ?On 25/07/2024, 01:15, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry"
>>> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of 
>>> imra at
>>> iol.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>           Incidentally, it comes with a free trial
>>>      of Capture One which I know little about. I use Lightroom 6 and 
>>> PSE 15
>>>      which won?t work with the new Fuji raw files. Of course, I 
>>> could go
>>>      Adobe monthly, but I?d be interested in hearing what people 
>>> have to say
>>>      about the Capture One directional option. Has any one switched 
>>> to it?
>>>
>>>
>>>      Opinions gratefully received.
>>>
>>>      Douglas
>>>
>>
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Aram Langhans
(Semi) Retired Science Teacher
& Unemployed photographer
  
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