[Leica] Testing the old Elmar 5cm f 3.5

[Lluis Ripoll]

Don,

I share what you say but for me if one day I made a picture that I like and I can be relatively proud of it, say a certain “good one”, I want that this picture was made by me not thanks by the tehnology of sensors, autofocus (I never used it), or software that improve the images like Topaz…
Lluis


> El 3 ag 2023, a les 23:35, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> 
> Lluis, I think the resulting image from a digital sensor depends very much
> on how it is treated in processing.  I do appreciate my legacy lenses with
> a digital sensor; depending the artistic expression they can be made to
> perform as on film or not.  Images through film require a bit more pre
> planning due to film choice and developer choice as those two variables
> have a great deal of impact on the image.
> 
> I guess my feelings are related to looking at some of the Impressionist
> painters who might use pencil, oils, and gauche to create the look they
> want.  In silver you have film, developer, paper, paper developer, and
> various post operations like toning or selective bleaching not to mention
> intensifying a negative.
> 
> Even on a film Leica there is such a tremendous availability of lenses of
> all characters that the photographer's expression knows few limits.
> 
> Going a bit further, I have been accumulating most of the published W.
> Eugene Smith books and looking at his images closely.  The impact of an
> image has little to do with technical perfection and very much to do with
> the content of the image and how it is composed.  Which means I have come
> back around to what you said, testing might be useful for certain
> applications but the image is what counts.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 3:40 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> The Elmar 50/2.8 was an excellent lens and the last version M was  really
>> superb.
>> 
>> But I’m sorry Paul if I’m not a follower of tests with digital cameras,
>> the sensors operate great performances and in MHO they don’t give a
>> realistic image of the natural look of a lens made for film.
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 3 ag 2023, a les 19:35, Paul Roark via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va
>> escriure:
>>> 
>>> FWIW, I just posted a test shot taken at f/5.6 with the Elmar 50 f/2.8
>> on a
>>> Sony adapted to Leica M optics.  See
>> https://www.paulroark.com/Elmar-f56.jpg
>>> .
>>> 
>>> My notes on the relatively new Elmar:  "8x10 crop critically sharp at
>>> f.6.7, f.5.6 acceptable.  At f/4 sharp area is 80% of central square.
>>> 4-frame pan beats Leica apo 35mm.  On Sony a7c, with rubber hood, fits
>> into
>>> Sony RX1 case.  Sony must have Ultra Thin sensor cover modification from
>>> KoloriVision."
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 9:51 AM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Elmar was always a good lens especially by f5.6.  My uncoated
>> version
>>>> certainly is.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 9:22 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Right now the link works
>>>>> 
>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Flors_BN/2023F060426.jpg.html
>>> 
>>>>> Leica IIIF, Elmar 5cm f 3.5, Ilford FP4 EI 100, Perceptol 1:1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>> 
>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
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