[Leica] Drobos

Thu Jun 30 18:33:49 PDT 2022

 I ventured into a Synology NAS with RAID 5 a few years ago, primarily for
backup, and the damn thing broke down twice. Once was during the warranty
period, when it was set right by the sole distributor in India based in
Mumbai, and again 4 years ago. Both Synology and their distributor in
Mumbai had decided by then that they need not reply to emails/phone calls
from anyone owning any of their products which were out of the warranty
period, so it still sits as an expensive paperweight in my house. These are
very rare here still, so third party repair houses do not seem to be able
to repair them either.

I have reverted to doing my backups on 5TB portable external hard drives
made by Seagate/WD. I keep three sets - one at my house, one at my son's
house and one in my bank locker. They get updated at weekly, monthly and
two month intervals respectively. If other members of the family want to
access the data, they just plug in the correct USB external drive out of
the set at home, and away they go. It works fine, it is simple and anyone
can do it.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:28 AM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us> wrote:

> I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do
> anything fancy.  Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing
> complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and
> understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new
> one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the
> new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having
> any.
>
> Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from
> any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers.
> Inside the house.
>
> I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS
> from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir
> Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be
> impossible.
>
>
>
>
> On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> > I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle
> > NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this
> > stuff.
> >
> > No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic
> > functionality...
> >
> > As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two
> > drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced
> > technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you.
> >
> > I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off  my NAS remotely.  (
> > called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but
> > sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to
> > Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of
> > which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS.  You also
> > need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied
> > to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to
> > do nor has given me any answers that work.  Even the Tech Support has
> > told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work.....
> > Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL
> > commands from outside the LAN.  The ISP only is geared to the average
> > homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS....
> > Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own.
> >
> > If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I
> > have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least
> > follow directions.
> >
> > The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the
> > average IT guy, not some homeowner......  Things come up and do not
> > work.  Why?  you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix".
> > Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!!
> >
> > The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a
> > NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes.  ( or
> > have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.)
> >
> > The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two
> > different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD.
> >
> > USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special
> > recording formats, and are really cheap.
> >
> > If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it.....
> >
> > I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS.  The tech support is
> > usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help
> > you along.  I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL!  Get the +
> > ( Plus) models.
> >
> > They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD
> > capability.
> >
> > YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy....
> >
> > AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a
> > USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a
> > NAS........
> >
> > AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out
> > there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know......
> >
> > Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER
> > brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle.
> >
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> > On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
> >> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote:
> >>> Hello Brian,
> >>>  I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity
> >>> for the average user?
> >>
> >> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a
> >> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it
> >> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to
> >> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has
> >> served him flawlessly.
> >>
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