[Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works

[Frank Filippone]

Glad to hear that there are no real problems.
Sometimes I get the impression that these warnings are purposefully put in
to scare customers into buying new computers.
Frank

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:16 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Big thank you to all who replied, especially Frank and Sonny.
>
> The "Device is not migrated" message may not be a problem at all. There
> are numerous articles on the Web, all giving the same possible
> troubleshooting steps, none of which work for many people. Microsoft has
> never officially defined precisely what this message means, according to
> an IT pro on an MS Help forum.  The advice on several dozen Web sites is
> that if you get this message and the device doesn't work, follow the
> troubleshooting steps: The newest device drivers, newest chipset
> drivers, a system file check, latest BIOS, and reset to default BIOS
> settings.  If that doesn't solve the problem, buy new hardware.  What's
> also interesting is that sometimes this error occurs after a Windows
> update, when the device was working fine up until then. And it has
> occurred on Microsoft's own hardware.
>
> So, what if the device *does* work?  MS forums have the same advice:
> Spin your wheels with fixes that don't work, do a clean install of
> Windows, and then give up and buy new hardware.
>
> Now for an interesting wrinkle. I decided to go through Device Manager
> thoroughly and check for "migration" issues on other devices.  My wife's
> computer is much newer than mine. It's a plain-vanilla Dell with no
> extra stuff added beyond a wireless card.   Guess what?  Some of her
> hardware also show "device was not migrated," including the
> motherboard's built-in USB controllers. Same thing on my computer.  Yet
> everything has been working fine since I "upgraded" both our computers
> to Win10 last September.
>
> My semi-educated guess is that there is some sort of checklist MS uses
> for hardware and drivers that ensure absolute 100% compatibility with
> all the latest and greatest in their updates. Some of these checklist
> standards are too strict--a device that doesn't pass with a 100% score
> will still work fine. But, perhaps for legal reasons, MS puts a message
> in an obscure tab a couple of levels down in Device Manager, where no
> one but hard-core techies go.  And they do NOT show this as a true
> error.  There is no yellow warning triangle, and you don't find the
> events in any of the standard Event Viewer logs. In other words, what we
> don't know won't hurt us, but MS' legal posterior is covered, because
> they "warned" us.  It also encourages hardware manufacturers to
> absolutely comply with MS standards, and encourages us to buy new hardware.
>
> It's almost enough to make a guy go to LINUX.  Almost.  That way lies a
> different madness...   :-)
>
> --Peter
>
> ----------
> Frank Filippone wrote:
>
>  > I would follow Sonny's advice.
>  >
>  > Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name
> is on
>  > it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes the
> chips.?
>  > The design complete with the PCB layout and any required firmware is
> given
>  > to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the chips.? This the
>  > support is flaky but the design is probably good.? Asking for assistance
>  > will get you nowhere.? They know nothing.
>  >
>  > If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.? What you have is
> pretty
>  > old.? Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it will start
>  > going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for the new SW.?
>  > Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a properly
> working,
>  > out
>  > of date, old computer.
>  >
>  > Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that
> you
>  > start watching
>  >
>  > https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
>  >
>  > It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries
> returned and
>  > overrun computers at really big discounts.? After you decide WHAT to
> buy,
>  > wait.? They run sales all the time....? My Dell (XPS8930) cost me
> about 35%
>  > of its list price. Warranty is same as new. Buy when you get to the
> price
>  > you want for the model you want.? The inventory changes all the
> time.... so
>  > if something looks really good, it may not repeat....
>  >
>  > Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead
>  > issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....?
> I have
>  > a
>  > preference for Intel processors....
>  >
>  > Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you
> might find
>  > 32GB.? DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
>  >
>  > Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.? Speed and expense is not
>  > required in most cases.? This includes photo editing.? video cards are
>  > designed
>  > by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based on price.?
>  > Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
>  >
>  > Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.? Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm
> HDD for
>  > your main storage.? Do this yourself.? There are lots of places to buy
>  > them, including Amazon.
>  >
>  > Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW
>  > anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may
> need one.
>  >
>  > Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
>  >
>  >
>  > If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
>  >
>  >
>  > Frank Filippone
>  > BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>  > On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>  > > My guess is to let it go, if it?s working.  On the other hand, if
> you have
>  > > the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and
> you can
>  > > save your apps and files.
>  > >
>  > > I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct
> driver
>  > > and install the card.
>  > >
>  > > If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do
> anything
>  > > else.
>  > >
>  > > (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10
> crash
>  > > that wouldn?t let me repair.)
>  > >
>  > > SonC
>  > >
>  > > On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at
> leica-users.org>
>  > > wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died this
>  > >> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
>  > >> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device
> Manager
>  > >> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous match."
>  > >> Should I be worried?
>  > >>
>  > >> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe
> card, $13
>  > >> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450 GB
>  > >> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional
> x64.  The
>  > >> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
>  > >> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running
> Win10
>  > >> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to download
>  > >> files from my camera SD cards.
>  > >>
>  > >> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
>  > >> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
>  > >> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
>  > >> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
>  > >> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card.
> A 2GB
>  > >> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and
> from
>  > >> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
>  > >> compares of all these files showed no errors.
>  > >>
>  > >> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!).  The
>  > >> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads very
>  > >> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
>  > >> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same
> result. I
>  > >> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles. No help. I
>  > >> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
>  > >>
>  > >> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it
> have some
>  > >> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way
> to
>  > >> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
>  > >>
>  > >> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software."
> Ummm, no.
>  > >>
>  > >> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since
> the card
>  > >> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card unless
>  > >> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
>  > >> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a
> Canadian
>  > >> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is
> probably
>  > >> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but I'd
>  > >> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
>  > >>
>  > >> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered. Thanks!
>  > >> --Peter
>  > >>
>
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Frank Filippone
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