[Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works

Philippe photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 02:37:42 PDT 2021 

Mind you Sonny, I’m not saying it the best, the fastest, nor never fails. In fact I’ve had several over the period. One was deemed dead by apple, and lasted 5 more years until I had to decommission it because of LR and new cameras ...

But the daily operation is seamless for the user, and this matters much to me who doesn’t like it much when he has to dress as a tech, and hated it when XP would upload its endless daily security updates at the office … :-)

Amities

Philippe



> Le 9 juin 2021 à 06:58, Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
> 
> Apple is good, but I have a doorstop that proves it’s not infallible.  When
> it went south, the repair bill would have been half the cost of a new one.
> 
> That said, I love their phones and pads.
> 
> SonC
> 
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:12 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Been on an Apple a daysince 2006 or so, and it has kept the doc away.
>> 
>> For what it’s worth ...
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck with the other side of personal computers ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 8 juin 2021 à 19:55, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sonny, Jayanand and Frank. I agree the graphics card needs up
>> dating.  It's 1GB and I intended to go to 2GB, just as I will go with 16GB
>> Ram. the CPU is an Intel i5 4 core. In the past, I have updated pcs, so the
>> tech stuff holds no fears for me. While I've often thought of building my
>> own pc, I have a son working for Dell, so that can be useful. I am aware of
>> the resellers. Unfortunately, Ireland is a small market, and with the
>> pandemic, there are difficulties in getting supplies easily. That should
>> ease, of course as long as we don't get a massive Delta variant problem and
>> shut down again.
>>> 
>>> My biggest worry is that the old spinning disk hard drive will crash, so
>> I intend cloning it onto an SSD fairly quickly. Only problem being I'm
>> extraordinarily busy just at the moment which probably means I'm doomed to
>> TBSOD.
>>> 
>>> Douglas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 08/06/2021 00:14, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>> Douglas, In my opinion, you'd find more bang if you put the money into a
>>>> good 8gb graphics card instead of Ram memory.  Both is a good idea as
>> Frank
>>>> pointed out, but 16gb is adequate with memory on the card.
>>>> 
>>>> Windows doesn't contain so much bloatware, it is just that the
>>>> manufacturers load stuff in that slows it all down.  Win 10 is a solid
>>>> operating system and like any of them, always back up, and keep a recent
>>>> image of your computer on an unconnected hard drive.
>>>> 
>>>> A good way to go is a custom build machine at a good computer shop.
>> It's
>>>> really not that hard to build them yourself, but a knowledgeable nerd is
>>>> always a good thing in this territory.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sonny
>>>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>>>> 1714
>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>>>> 
>>>> USA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 5:22 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting take, Frank. I have a stuttering Windows 10 Dell Inspiron
>>>>> 3847 with 8GB ram which is struggling to cope with Lightworks video
>>>>> editing software.
>>>>> Ideally, I'd like to get a new pc with 32GB ram, but I've decided to
>> get
>>>>> 16GB of ram for it instead. I know I should really get rid of Windows
>>>>> which is stuffed full of bloatware. I'm beginning to veer into a
>>>>> paranoid hatred for Windows "We say it's not so much an operating
>>>>> system, and much more a service, but the reality it's a giant fat toad
>>>>> sitting on your back".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am I heading up the wrong fork in the road?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 07/06/2021 04:40, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
>>>>>> I would follow Sonny's advice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name
>>>>>> is on it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes
>>>>>> the chips.  The design complete with the PCB layout and any required
>>>>>> firmware is given to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the
>>>>>> chips.  This the support is flaky but the design is probably good.
>>>>>> Asking for assistance will get you nowhere. They know nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.  What you have is
>>>>>> pretty old.  Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it
>>>>>> will start going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for
>>>>>> the new SW.  Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a
>>>>>> properly working, out of date, old computer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that
>>>>>> you start watching
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries
>>>>>> returned and overrun computers at really big discounts.  After you
>>>>>> decide WHAT to buy, wait.  They run sales all the time....  My Dell
>>>>>> (XPS8930) cost me about 35% of its list price. Warranty is same as
>>>>>> new. Buy when you get to the price you want for the model you want.
>>>>>> The inventory changes all the time.... so if something looks really
>>>>>> good, it may not repeat....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead
>>>>>> issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....
>>>>>> I have a preference for Intel processors....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you might
>>>>>> find 32GB.  DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.  Speed and expense is not
>>>>>> required in most cases.  This includes photo editing.  video cards are
>>>>>> designed by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based
>>>>>> on price.  Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.  Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm HDD
>>>>>> for your main storage.  Do this yourself.  There are lots of places to
>>>>>> buy them, including Amazon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW
>>>>>> anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may
>>>>>> need one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>>>>> On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>>>>> My guess is to let it go, if it’s working.  On the other hand, if you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and you
>> can
>>>>>>> save your apps and files.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct
>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>> and install the card.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do
>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10
>>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>> that wouldn’t let me repair.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SonC
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died
>> this
>>>>>>>> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
>>>>>>>> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device
>> Manager
>>>>>>>> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous
>> match."
>>>>>>>> Should I be worried?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe card,
>>>>>>>> $13
>>>>>>>> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450
>> GB
>>>>>>>> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional x64.
>> The
>>>>>>>> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
>>>>>>>> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running
>> Win10
>>>>>>>> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to
>> download
>>>>>>>> files from my camera SD cards.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
>>>>>>>> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
>>>>>>>> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
>>>>>>>> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
>>>>>>>> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card. A
>>>>>>>> 2GB
>>>>>>>> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and
>> from
>>>>>>>> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
>>>>>>>> compares of all these files showed no errors.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The
>>>>>>>> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads
>> very
>>>>>>>> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
>>>>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same
>>>>>>>> result. I
>>>>>>>> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles.  No help. I
>>>>>>>> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it have
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way
>> to
>>>>>>>> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software."
>>>>>>>> Ummm, no.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since the
>>>>>>>> card
>>>>>>>> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card
>> unless
>>>>>>>> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
>>>>>>>> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a
>>>>>>>> Canadian
>>>>>>>> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is
>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but
>> I'd
>>>>>>>> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered.  Thanks!
>>>>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> 
> USA
> 
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