[Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works

Philippe photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com
Tue Jun 8 11:41:10 PDT 2021 

Been on an Apple a daysince 2006 or so, and it has kept the doc away.

For what it’s worth ...


Good luck with the other side of personal computers ;-)


Amities

Philippe



> Le 8 juin 2021 à 19:55, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> a écrit :
> 
> Thanks Sonny, Jayanand and Frank. I agree the graphics card needs up dating.  It's 1GB and I intended to go to 2GB, just as I will go with 16GB Ram. the CPU is an Intel i5 4 core. In the past, I have updated pcs, so the tech stuff holds no fears for me. While I've often thought of building my own pc, I have a son working for Dell, so that can be useful. I am aware of the resellers. Unfortunately, Ireland is a small market, and with the pandemic, there are difficulties in getting supplies easily. That should ease, of course as long as we don't get a massive Delta variant problem and shut down again.
> 
> My biggest worry is that the old spinning disk hard drive will crash, so I intend cloning it onto an SSD fairly quickly. Only problem being I'm extraordinarily busy just at the moment which probably means I'm doomed to TBSOD.
> 
> Douglas
> 
> 
> On 08/06/2021 00:14, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>> Douglas, In my opinion, you'd find more bang if you put the money into a
>> good 8gb graphics card instead of Ram memory.  Both is a good idea as Frank
>> pointed out, but 16gb is adequate with memory on the card.
>> 
>> Windows doesn't contain so much bloatware, it is just that the
>> manufacturers load stuff in that slows it all down.  Win 10 is a solid
>> operating system and like any of them, always back up, and keep a recent
>> image of your computer on an unconnected hard drive.
>> 
>> A good way to go is a custom build machine at a good computer shop.  It's
>> really not that hard to build them yourself, but a knowledgeable nerd is
>> always a good thing in this territory.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sonny
>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
>> 1714
>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>> 
>> USA
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 5:22 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting take, Frank. I have a stuttering Windows 10 Dell Inspiron
>>> 3847 with 8GB ram which is struggling to cope with Lightworks video
>>> editing software.
>>> Ideally, I'd like to get a new pc with 32GB ram, but I've decided to get
>>> 16GB of ram for it instead. I know I should really get rid of Windows
>>> which is stuffed full of bloatware. I'm beginning to veer into a
>>> paranoid hatred for Windows "We say it's not so much an operating
>>> system, and much more a service, but the reality it's a giant fat toad
>>> sitting on your back".
>>> 
>>> Am I heading up the wrong fork in the road?
>>> 
>>> Douglas
>>> 
>>> On 07/06/2021 04:40, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
>>>> I would follow Sonny's advice.
>>>> 
>>>> Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name
>>>> is on it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes
>>>> the chips.  The design complete with the PCB layout and any required
>>>> firmware is given to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the
>>>> chips.  This the support is flaky but the design is probably good.
>>>> Asking for assistance will get you nowhere. They know nothing.
>>>> 
>>>> If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.  What you have is
>>>> pretty old.  Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it
>>>> will start going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for
>>>> the new SW.  Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a
>>>> properly working, out of date, old computer.
>>>> 
>>>> Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that
>>>> you start watching
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
>>>> 
>>>> It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries
>>>> returned and overrun computers at really big discounts.  After you
>>>> decide WHAT to buy, wait.  They run sales all the time....  My Dell
>>>> (XPS8930) cost me about 35% of its list price. Warranty is same as
>>>> new. Buy when you get to the price you want for the model you want.
>>>> The inventory changes all the time.... so if something looks really
>>>> good, it may not repeat....
>>>> 
>>>> Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead
>>>> issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....
>>>> I have a preference for Intel processors....
>>>> 
>>>> Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you might
>>>> find 32GB.  DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.  Speed and expense is not
>>>> required in most cases.  This includes photo editing.  video cards are
>>>> designed by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based
>>>> on price.  Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
>>>> 
>>>> Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.  Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm HDD
>>>> for your main storage.  Do this yourself.  There are lots of places to
>>>> buy them, including Amazon.
>>>> 
>>>> Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW
>>>> anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may
>>>> need one.
>>>> 
>>>> Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>>> On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>>> My guess is to let it go, if it’s working.  On the other hand, if you
>>>>> have
>>>>> the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and you can
>>>>> save your apps and files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct
>>>>> driver
>>>>> and install the card.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do
>>>>> anything
>>>>> else.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10
>>>>> crash
>>>>> that wouldn’t let me repair.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> SonC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died this
>>>>>> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
>>>>>> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device Manager
>>>>>> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous match."
>>>>>> Should I be worried?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe card,
>>>>>> $13
>>>>>> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450 GB
>>>>>> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional x64.  The
>>>>>> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
>>>>>> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running Win10
>>>>>> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to download
>>>>>> files from my camera SD cards.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
>>>>>> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
>>>>>> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
>>>>>> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
>>>>>> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card. A
>>>>>> 2GB
>>>>>> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and from
>>>>>> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
>>>>>> compares of all these files showed no errors.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The
>>>>>> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads very
>>>>>> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
>>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same
>>>>>> result. I
>>>>>> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles.  No help. I
>>>>>> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it have
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way to
>>>>>> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software."
>>>>>> Ummm, no.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since the
>>>>>> card
>>>>>> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card unless
>>>>>> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
>>>>>> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a
>>>>>> Canadian
>>>>>> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but I'd
>>>>>> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered.  Thanks!
>>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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