[Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works

Tue Jun 8 10:55:26 PDT 2021

Thanks Sonny, Jayanand and Frank. I agree the graphics card needs up 
dating.  It's 1GB and I intended to go to 2GB, just as I will go with 
16GB Ram. the CPU is an Intel i5 4 core. In the past, I have updated 
pcs, so the tech stuff holds no fears for me. While I've often thought 
of building my own pc, I have a son working for Dell, so that can be 
useful. I am aware of the resellers. Unfortunately, Ireland is a small 
market, and with the pandemic, there are difficulties in getting 
supplies easily. That should ease, of course as long as we don't get a 
massive Delta variant problem and shut down again.

My biggest worry is that the old spinning disk hard drive will crash, so 
I intend cloning it onto an SSD fairly quickly. Only problem being I'm 
extraordinarily busy just at the moment which probably means I'm doomed 
to TBSOD.

Douglas

On 08/06/2021 00:14, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
> Douglas, In my opinion, you'd find more bang if you put the money into a
> good 8gb graphics card instead of Ram memory.  Both is a good idea as Frank
> pointed out, but 16gb is adequate with memory on the card.
>
> Windows doesn't contain so much bloatware, it is just that the
> manufacturers load stuff in that slows it all down.  Win 10 is a solid
> operating system and like any of them, always back up, and keep a recent
> image of your computer on an unconnected hard drive.
>
> A good way to go is a custom build machine at a good computer shop.  It's
> really not that hard to build them yourself, but a knowledgeable nerd is
> always a good thing in this territory.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 1714
> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
>
> USA
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 5:22 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>
>> Interesting take, Frank. I have a stuttering Windows 10 Dell Inspiron
>> 3847 with 8GB ram which is struggling to cope with Lightworks video
>> editing software.
>> Ideally, I'd like to get a new pc with 32GB ram, but I've decided to get
>> 16GB of ram for it instead. I know I should really get rid of Windows
>> which is stuffed full of bloatware. I'm beginning to veer into a
>> paranoid hatred for Windows "We say it's not so much an operating
>> system, and much more a service, but the reality it's a giant fat toad
>> sitting on your back".
>>
>> Am I heading up the wrong fork in the road?
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>> On 07/06/2021 04:40, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
>>> I would follow Sonny's advice.
>>>
>>> Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name
>>> is on it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes
>>> the chips.  The design complete with the PCB layout and any required
>>> firmware is given to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the
>>> chips.  This the support is flaky but the design is probably good.
>>> Asking for assistance will get you nowhere. They know nothing.
>>>
>>> If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.  What you have is
>>> pretty old.  Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it
>>> will start going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for
>>> the new SW.  Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a
>>> properly working, out of date, old computer.
>>>
>>> Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that
>>> you start watching
>>>
>>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
>>>
>>> It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries
>>> returned and overrun computers at really big discounts.  After you
>>> decide WHAT to buy, wait.  They run sales all the time....  My Dell
>>> (XPS8930) cost me about 35% of its list price. Warranty is same as
>>> new. Buy when you get to the price you want for the model you want.
>>> The inventory changes all the time.... so if something looks really
>>> good, it may not repeat....
>>>
>>> Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead
>>> issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....
>>> I have a preference for Intel processors....
>>>
>>> Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you might
>>> find 32GB.  DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
>>>
>>> Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.  Speed and expense is not
>>> required in most cases.  This includes photo editing.  video cards are
>>> designed by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based
>>> on price.  Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
>>>
>>> Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.  Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm HDD
>>> for your main storage.  Do this yourself.  There are lots of places to
>>> buy them, including Amazon.
>>>
>>> Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW
>>> anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may
>>> need one.
>>>
>>> Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>> On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>>>> My guess is to let it go, if it’s working.  On the other hand, if you
>>>> have
>>>> the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and you can
>>>> save your apps and files.
>>>>
>>>> I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct
>>>> driver
>>>> and install the card.
>>>>
>>>> If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do
>>>> anything
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>> (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10
>>>> crash
>>>> that wouldn’t let me repair.)
>>>>
>>>> SonC
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died this
>>>>> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
>>>>> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device Manager
>>>>> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous match."
>>>>> Should I be worried?
>>>>>
>>>>> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe card,
>>>>> $13
>>>>> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450 GB
>>>>> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional x64.  The
>>>>> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
>>>>> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running Win10
>>>>> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to download
>>>>> files from my camera SD cards.
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
>>>>> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
>>>>> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
>>>>> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
>>>>> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card. A
>>>>> 2GB
>>>>> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and from
>>>>> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
>>>>> compares of all these files showed no errors.
>>>>>
>>>>> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The
>>>>> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads very
>>>>> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same
>>>>> result. I
>>>>> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles.  No help. I
>>>>> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it have
>>>>> some
>>>>> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way to
>>>>> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software."
>>>>> Ummm, no.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since the
>>>>> card
>>>>> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card unless
>>>>> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
>>>>> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a
>>>>> Canadian
>>>>> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is
>>>>> probably
>>>>> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but I'd
>>>>> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered.  Thanks!
>>>>> --Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information