[Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works

[Douglas Barry]

Interesting take, Frank. I have a stuttering Windows 10 Dell Inspiron 
3847 with 8GB ram which is struggling to cope with Lightworks video 
editing software.
Ideally, I'd like to get a new pc with 32GB ram, but I've decided to get 
16GB of ram for it instead. I know I should really get rid of Windows 
which is stuffed full of bloatware. I'm beginning to veer into a 
paranoid hatred for Windows "We say it's not so much an operating 
system, and much more a service, but the reality it's a giant fat toad 
sitting on your back".

Am I heading up the wrong fork in the road?

Douglas

On 07/06/2021 04:40, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> I would follow Sonny's advice.
>
> Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name 
> is on it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes 
> the chips.  The design complete with the PCB layout and any required 
> firmware is given to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the 
> chips.  This the support is flaky but the design is probably good.  
> Asking for assistance will get you nowhere. They know nothing.
>
> If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.  What you have is 
> pretty old.  Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it 
> will start going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for 
> the new SW.  Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a 
> properly working, out of date, old computer.
>
> Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that 
> you start watching
>
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
>
> It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries 
> returned and overrun computers at really big discounts.  After you 
> decide WHAT to buy, wait.  They run sales all the time....  My Dell 
> (XPS8930) cost me about 35% of its list price. Warranty is same as 
> new. Buy when you get to the price you want for the model you want.  
> The inventory changes all the time.... so if something looks really 
> good, it may not repeat....
>
> Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead 
> issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....  
> I have a preference for Intel processors....
>
> Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you might 
> find 32GB.  DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
>
> Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.  Speed and expense is not 
> required in most cases.  This includes photo editing.  video cards are 
> designed by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based 
> on price.  Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
>
> Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.  Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm HDD 
> for your main storage.  Do this yourself.  There are lots of places to 
> buy them, including Amazon.
>
> Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW 
> anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may 
> need one.
>
> Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
>
>
> If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
>
>
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
>> My guess is to let it go, if it’s working.  On the other hand, if you 
>> have
>> the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and you can
>> save your apps and files.
>>
>> I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct 
>> driver
>> and install the card.
>>
>> If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do 
>> anything
>> else.
>>
>> (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10 
>> crash
>> that wouldn’t let me repair.)
>>
>> SonC
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died this
>>> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
>>> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device Manager
>>> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous match."
>>> Should I be worried?
>>>
>>> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe card, 
>>> $13
>>> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450 GB
>>> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional x64.  The
>>> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
>>> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running Win10
>>> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to download
>>> files from my camera SD cards.
>>>
>>> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
>>> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
>>> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
>>> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
>>> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card. A 
>>> 2GB
>>> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and from
>>> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
>>> compares of all these files showed no errors.
>>>
>>> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The
>>> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads very
>>> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
>>> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same 
>>> result. I
>>> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles.  No help. I
>>> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
>>>
>>> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it have 
>>> some
>>> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way to
>>> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
>>>
>>> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software." 
>>> Ummm, no.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since the 
>>> card
>>> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card unless
>>> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
>>> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a 
>>> Canadian
>>> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is 
>>> probably
>>> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but I'd
>>> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered.  Thanks!
>>> --Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
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