[Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM

Jeffery Smith smithjeffery at mac.com
Thu Jul 22 20:21:00 PDT 2021 

I think Stephen Gandy has a tech who can do that. I had a local guy adjust mine only to find out that he "stands about 8 feet" from his wall, focuses on a calendar, and uses that to adjust the rangefinder. I expect better precision than that!

> On Jul 22, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> Do you know of anyone who can set the rangefinder of a Canon 7s right? I
> put an LTM lens on mine long ago, and it had mechanically messed around
> with the rangefinder, making focusing difficult.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:37 AM Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jayanand,
>> 
>> Actually it's the process. I put the LTM lenses on Canon 7s bodies, and I
>> do stand development with Rodinal for 120 minutes when other developers
>> would take only 10 minutes. I like B&W from the 1940s to 1970s, so I like
>> using the same equipment that was used then as well. I don't want anything
>> sharper than HCB or Winogrand had. And, when it was still available, I
>> liked 777 developer, as scummy as it could look in the bottle.
>> 
>> It's not all that strange. Players in baroque orchestras play on valveless
>> horns, and there are CDs of piano music played on Clara Schumann's piano.
>> If I sold my work, I'd probably have a much different perspective,
>> especially if sharp was expected. With every man, woman, and child in
>> advanced countries carrying a smart phone around, anyone can take a pretty
>> good photo in color, in focus, and better looking than film. I want to do
>> it the old way, the way I learned it in the 60s.
>> 
>> I *do* have my limits. I won't shoot animals for food. I'd rather have
>> beef than deer. And I won't develop any film in coffee.
>> 
>> Jeffery (the Dinosaur) :-)
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As long as you are scanning film to digital, and processing for
>>> display/printing from there, it would be better to have crisp images that
>>> can be softened any which way you want in PP, because the converse (i.e.
>>> soft to sharp) might not always be possible. IMHO, it is always better to
>>> have too much information than too little, the range of possibilities for
>>> the final output is far greater.
>>> 
>>> Of course, I am assuming here that the only important aspect is not the
>>> process or methodology, but the final output.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:23 AM Jeffery Smith via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much! If I was shooting just cityscapes, buildings, etc.,
>>>> modern sharp lenses would be the way to go, but I'm increasingly trying
>> to
>>>> get human faces into everything and I don't want sharp details to
>> distract
>>>> from the overall impression of the face. As Capa said, if the pictures
>>>> aren't good enough, you aren't close enough (paraphrased). It will be
>>>> interesting trying some SP with 90mm as the lens.
>>>> 
>>>> Back home in Louisiana, I have some Leica 50s that are vintage
>> (Summarit,
>>>> Summitar, collapsible Summicron) and I wish I had brought them to
>>>> California with me.  For now, it is the 90/4 Elmar and two very clean
>>>> Jupiters.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes! It’s a wonderful shot Jeffery, I’m also a lover of the old lenses,
>>>> as Frank said the modrrn ones are too sharp, too crisp, I love the
>> Mandler
>>>> lenses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 22 jul 2021, a les 18:04, Jeffery Smith via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Lluis. You might remember the chess matches from about 2
>> decades
>>>> ago.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html
>> <
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just chose 6 of my favorites, based mostly on the children's
>>>> expressions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only lens I had with me was a 50/2.8 Elmar, but the room was very
>>>> well lit up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Great portraits, lovely work
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 21 jul 2021, a les 4:29, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alan, Jeffery
>>>>>>>> Both stunning portraits. Beautiful
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 6:57 PM Alan Magayne-Roshak via LUG <
>>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Per the discussion on the Elmar 90mm f4 LTM, I think it might
>> almost
>>>> be too
>>>>>>>>> sharp for a portrait lens.  I took this when my only lenses for my
>>>> M3 were
>>>>>>>>> the 50 Summicron
>>>>>>>>> collapsible and this 1946 Elmar 90 that I bought for $49.00 in
>>>> 1974.  The
>>>>>>>>> stop was f/5.6.  View large and notice the stray hair on the cheek.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Portraits/Charisse/19750712_MR_Charisse_2.jpg.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
>>>>>>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
>>>>>>>>> (Retired)
>>>>>>>>> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978
>>>>>>>>> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014
>>>>>>>>> amagayneroshak at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
>>>>>>>>> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
>>>>>>>>> 
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