[Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM

[Jeffery Smith]

Hi Jayanand,

Actually it's the process. I put the LTM lenses on Canon 7s bodies, and I do stand development with Rodinal for 120 minutes when other developers would take only 10 minutes. I like B&W from the 1940s to 1970s, so I like using the same equipment that was used then as well. I don't want anything sharper than HCB or Winogrand had. And, when it was still available, I liked 777 developer, as scummy as it could look in the bottle. 

It's not all that strange. Players in baroque orchestras play on valveless horns, and there are CDs of piano music played on Clara Schumann's piano. If I sold my work, I'd probably have a much different perspective, especially if sharp was expected. With every man, woman, and child in advanced countries carrying a smart phone around, anyone can take a pretty good photo in color, in focus, and better looking than film. I want to do it the old way, the way I learned it in the 60s.

I *do* have my limits. I won't shoot animals for food. I'd rather have beef than deer. And I won't develop any film in coffee.

Jeffery (the Dinosaur) :-)

> On Jul 22, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> As long as you are scanning film to digital, and processing for
> display/printing from there, it would be better to have crisp images that
> can be softened any which way you want in PP, because the converse (i.e.
> soft to sharp) might not always be possible. IMHO, it is always better to
> have too much information than too little, the range of possibilities for
> the final output is far greater.
> 
> Of course, I am assuming here that the only important aspect is not the
> process or methodology, but the final output.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:23 AM Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you very much! If I was shooting just cityscapes, buildings, etc.,
>> modern sharp lenses would be the way to go, but I'm increasingly trying to
>> get human faces into everything and I don't want sharp details to distract
>> from the overall impression of the face. As Capa said, if the pictures
>> aren't good enough, you aren't close enough (paraphrased). It will be
>> interesting trying some SP with 90mm as the lens.
>> 
>> Back home in Louisiana, I have some Leica 50s that are vintage (Summarit,
>> Summitar, collapsible Summicron) and I wish I had brought them to
>> California with me.  For now, it is the 90/4 Elmar and two very clean
>> Jupiters.
>> 
>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:14 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes! It’s a wonderful shot Jeffery, I’m also a lover of the old lenses,
>> as Frank said the modrrn ones are too sharp, too crisp, I love the Mandler
>> lenses.
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 22 jul 2021, a les 18:04, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Lluis. You might remember the chess matches from about 2 decades
>> ago.
>>>> 
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Jeffery+Smith/Chess-Match-4.jpg.html>
>>>> 
>>>> I just chose 6 of my favorites, based mostly on the children's
>> expressions.
>>>> 
>>>> The only lens I had with me was a 50/2.8 Elmar, but the room was very
>> well lit up.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2021, at 8:28 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great portraits, lovely work
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 21 jul 2021, a les 4:29, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alan, Jeffery
>>>>>> Both stunning portraits. Beautiful
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 6:57 PM Alan Magayne-Roshak via LUG <
>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Per the discussion on the Elmar 90mm f4 LTM, I think it might almost
>> be too
>>>>>>> sharp for a portrait lens.  I took this when my only lenses for my
>> M3 were
>>>>>>> the 50 Summicron
>>>>>>> collapsible and this 1946 Elmar 90 that I bought for $49.00 in
>> 1974.  The
>>>>>>> stop was f/5.6.  View large and notice the stray hair on the cheek.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/Portraits/Charisse/19750712_MR_Charisse_2.jpg.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
>>>>>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Photo Services
>>>>>>> (Retired)
>>>>>>> UPAA Photographer of the Year 1978
>>>>>>> UPAA Master of the Profession 2014
>>>>>>> amagayneroshak at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "All the technique in the world doesn't compensate
>>>>>>> for an inability to notice. " - Elliott Erwitt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information