[Leica] Different walks

Mon Oct 26 12:38:28 PDT 2020

Lluis

and Don,

Rassure toi, Lluis
Don’t panic

on ne se bat pas, loin de là
We’re not fighting, far from it - are we Don? not that I know

On partage des points de vue
We’re just exchanging views

qui n’engagent que nous
that only commit ourselves

mais je crois que Don a bien vu ton changement d’approche aussi
But I think Don perceived the change in your approach too

Ne cherche pas d’excuses
Don’t try to justify

Nous sommes des spectateurs
We are viewers

Et nos visions sont biaisées par nos cultures, nos experiences, et nos attentes
And our visions are biassed by our own cultures, experiences, and expectations :-)

En tout cas, continue à nous enflammer avec tes photos, et appuie sur le bouton jusqu’à ce qu’il gèle - pas demain la veille à Barça me dit-on ;-)
In any case, keep the fire on as is with your photos, and press that button until it freezes - unlikely in Barcelona at this period of the year ;-)

Et reste MASQUE !

Je t’embrasse

Philippe

> Le 26 oct. 2020 à 20:24, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
> 
> Philippe, Don
> 
> What I can and must explain is first of all, I don't like taking photos in the current circumstances, people are suspicious, you can't get close, photos in the park are for me very boring to take, street photography in more crowded environments goes more unnoticed and also generates attractive situations for the photographer. Unfortunately this is the time we have had to live in…
> 
> Amitiés
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 26 oct 2020, a les 20:13, Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>> 
>> Don, I don’t know about Feiniger who may have had his/her merits.
>> 
>> What I see is Lluis’s work as presented in today’s context. And knowing the guy Lluis, I perceive that his change in visualisation owes nothing to anything deliberate - Lluis shoots according to the circumstances, and faithfully reports on i) what he sees, ii) what he feels ii)how he can achieve a testimony. This is how I sense the whole thing (think of the Ferrari shot, the car is immaterial, the encourter with the shopping cart tells me Lluis is a vigilant observer of our times. Time will tell, and I don’t know who is right and who is wrong here.
>> 
>> I would certainly not like to start a fight or a quarrel - better I believe that this thread is the first one in ages when we discuss the merrits of photographs other than in terms of like/don’t like, and the soul of photography. I’m thankful to Lluis and you to have brought this up.
>> 
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 26 oct. 2020 à 17:07, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Philippe, your point about isolation being portrayed with the intent of the
>>> subjects to remain a part of the culture is well taken.  This is an
>>> arguable artistic point; imagine "Morning in the park" cropped tightly to
>>> the señorita and her shadow back to the right.  The tightness would be
>>> similar to the Feinenger image of the woman at the corner of a building so
>>> the señorita is walking out of the frame with the background including the
>>> people on the bench almost disappearing into the blur.
>>> 
>>> Seeing the artists vision and then imagining the situation in different
>>> frames is why art is so important for a culture and for a culture to
>>> communicate to others outside what it is to be inside.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:06 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That’s a different type of photos, Don is right.
>>>> 
>>>> But I like it to be able to see these people in a larger frame. These are
>>>> not portraits. Nor Plans Americains. They are people in isolation trying to
>>>> pretend they may live an instant of normal life. And the large framing
>>>> weighs into this direction.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW #1 & #3 show their backs, as if they were about to leave the frame and
>>>> a director’s  CUT ! was about to resonate on the set with an Italian accent
>>>> ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Keep wearing that mask Lluis, and shooting with a vengeance :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Amities
>>>> 
>>>> Philippe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 26 oct. 2020 à 15:41, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit
>>>> :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lluis, your sense of light remains strong.  I do think that you are
>>>>> responsibly distancing yourself which detracts from the strength of your
>>>>> vision.  To stay safe I suggest you transition to a 75 Summilux or a 90
>>>> to
>>>>> be safe but recapture the intimacy and clarity of your photography.
>>>>> Alternatively, I am not "getting" the isolation or loneliness you may be
>>>>> trying to convey, but I will return to your images later this week when I
>>>>> have more time to view them and perhaps better understand the images.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Be safe and keep showing us your city.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:06 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Weelchair’s walk
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100108.jpg.html
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leica M6, Summilux 35 pre, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A morning in the Park
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100111.jpg.html
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Walking with the Dog
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100112.jpg.html
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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