[Leica] Different walks

[Don Dory]

Absolutely agree.  This is why I added to my original comment; there is art
in this which whatever the intent of the artist there is something in it
which speaks to the viewer as well.  Lluis's inner thoughts sees something
that triggers a reaction: I am sure sometimes that is a push of the shutter
button but other times changing location slightly, changing the perspective
to emphasis what was visualized etc.  This should never be considered a
political right/wrong decision but a largely emotional response to the
art.  The response evoked is what is important: if the response is not what
the artist thought he/she wanted to evoke then reconsideration is in
order.  This feedback loupe creates better art as the information returned
to the creator leads them to go forward in whatever direction seems best
for the response desired.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:13 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Don, I don’t know about Feiniger who may have had his/her merits.
>
> What I see is Lluis’s work as presented in today’s context. And knowing
> the guy Lluis, I perceive that his change in visualisation owes nothing to
> anything deliberate - Lluis shoots according to the circumstances, and
> faithfully reports on i) what he sees, ii) what he feels ii)how he can
> achieve a testimony. This is how I sense the whole thing (think of the
> Ferrari shot, the car is immaterial, the encourter with the shopping cart
> tells me Lluis is a vigilant observer of our times. Time will tell, and I
> don’t know who is right and who is wrong here.
>
> I would certainly not like to start a fight or a quarrel - better I
> believe that this thread is the first one in ages when we discuss the
> merrits of photographs other than in terms of like/don’t like, and the soul
> of photography. I’m thankful to Lluis and you to have brought this up.
>
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> > Le 26 oct. 2020 à 17:07, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit
> :
> >
> > Philippe, your point about isolation being portrayed with the intent of
> the
> > subjects to remain a part of the culture is well taken.  This is an
> > arguable artistic point; imagine "Morning in the park" cropped tightly to
> > the señorita and her shadow back to the right.  The tightness would be
> > similar to the Feinenger image of the woman at the corner of a building
> so
> > the señorita is walking out of the frame with the background including
> the
> > people on the bench almost disappearing into the blur.
> >
> > Seeing the artists vision and then imagining the situation in different
> > frames is why art is so important for a culture and for a culture to
> > communicate to others outside what it is to be inside.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:06 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That’s a different type of photos, Don is right.
> >>
> >> But I like it to be able to see these people in a larger frame. These
> are
> >> not portraits. Nor Plans Americains. They are people in isolation
> trying to
> >> pretend they may live an instant of normal life. And the large framing
> >> weighs into this direction.
> >>
> >> BTW #1 & #3 show their backs, as if they were about to leave the frame
> and
> >> a director’s  CUT ! was about to resonate on the set with an Italian
> accent
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Keep wearing that mask Lluis, and shooting with a vengeance :-)
> >>
> >> Amities
> >>
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Le 26 oct. 2020 à 15:41, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a
> écrit
> >> :
> >>>
> >>> Lluis, your sense of light remains strong.  I do think that you are
> >>> responsibly distancing yourself which detracts from the strength of
> your
> >>> vision.  To stay safe I suggest you transition to a 75 Summilux or a 90
> >> to
> >>> be safe but recapture the intimacy and clarity of your photography.
> >>> Alternatively, I am not "getting" the isolation or loneliness you may
> be
> >>> trying to convey, but I will return to your images later this week
> when I
> >>> have more time to view them and perhaps better understand the images.
> >>>
> >>> Be safe and keep showing us your city.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:06 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
> >> lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Weelchair’s walk
> >>>> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100108.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>>> Leica M6, Summilux 35 pre, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
> >>>>
> >>>> A morning in the Park
> >>>> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100111.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
> >>>>
> >>>> Walking with the Dog
> >>>> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100112.jpg.html
> >>>
> >>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
> >>>>
> >>>> Saludos cordiales
> >>>> Lluis
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Don
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> >>>
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Don
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