[Leica] Nikon et al vs MIrrorless cameras

[geneduprey2015 at gmail.com]

I’m not sure I’ve invested in the Nikon Z system, 2 weeks ago tomorrow I bought my Z6 and FTZ adapter. I talked to around 20 or so photographers that have been using the Z’s and that includes 5 pro’s. Everyone has been very happy with them, so I bought mine at ImagingUSA. So far I’m happy with the purchase, I have even had success with Bald Eagle in flight shots. Not perfect, but I’ve done pretty good so far. Still in the learning phase, but happy. I bought a $16 M to Z adapter when I got home last week, and my M glass seems to work just fine.  Not getting rid of my D4 or D500 anytime soon, but if the expected Pro Z comes out in a year or so I just may get rid of my DSLR’s then. The Pro Z cannot come out to soon as the D6 seems to be a disappointment so far.

Gene

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> On Feb 14, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
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> This implies sales on the Z6, Z7 and Z50 camera have been slow in sales and I'm pretty sure that has not been the case at all I think it's been a boom for Nikon on all levels. I was in the market for a Nikon body  last January and the new and first out Nikon mirrorless Z6, Z7 were just out and were getting a ton of exposure. An innovated forward looking light hearted person would have gone that route. Not me like you were saying Nikon is a day one with mirrorless and the last thing I'm going to do is invest some big change into a first out. Turns out I was wrong these cameras worked out perfectly and paved the way for the recent release the DX cropped format Z50 which would really save my on Tylenol and Aleve bills. (this is not a product endorsement)
> I still say avoid first outs. And the D50 is not a first out. And its cheap and lightweight and compact as all get out. And that tiny feather weight zoom lens it often comes with is a near pancake could do me fine for years.
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> Mark William Rabiner
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> On 2/14/20, 12:45 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
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>      Peter and Howard have been having a debate on Nikon ( specifically) Z6
>    camera progress to replacing all DSLR with Mirrorless models.
> 
>    A different perspective....
>    First the interchange.....
>    The loan program shows how desperate Nikon is to convince Nikon users to
>    move from DSLRs to the EVF models. The latter are competent, as you can see,
>    but I am not sure that they will be as versatile as the old mirror prisms
>    on the DSLRs - especially for the flying bird photography that I do
> 
>    Now the perspective....
>    The first Nikon camera to be digital was the D1 in 1999.  20 years ago.
>    They have done a wonderful job of improving and refining the camera(s)
>    since then.  The first Nikon mirrorless is the Z6/7 introduced in 2018.  It
>    is to be understood that the Mirrorless camera has not had the development
>    time and effort that the DSLR models have.  Plus the business decision to
>    not develop too quickly and have all your DSLR sales go to zero because of
>    the "better" mirrorless model. ( incentive to NOT change or improve).
>    A few years ago I predicted the end of the DSLR domination.  That is
>    becoming a fact.  Manufacturing infrastructure at Nikon is predominantly
>    mechanically inclined employees.  Mirrorless camera require significantly
>    less mechanical assembly... they are basically computers with some
>    mechanical integration.  THEY ARE INHERENTLY LESS COSTLY TO PRODUCE.
>    The Sony A7 caught Nikon lollygagging around.. and Nikon declared the Sony
>    technology to be inferior...... never going to work as well.... Never going
>    to be able to AF as well.  Never going .... you fill in the final
>    part.....   Then came the Sony A9, which made Nikon shut up.  The A9 was
>    created to defy Nikon.  Fix all the naysayers comments, especially the
>    Birders and teh Sports guys.....  Then came the A9II which further
>    strengthened the Mirrorless position.....
>    Nikon is  in no different position than they were a few years ago.. denying
>    the obvious superiority of the mirrorless technology because of their heavy
>    infrastructure investments on mirror-box manufacturing.
>    Canon has stated no new DSLR lens development.  Guess the word is received
>    at Canon..... go Mirrorless.
>    If you want a bird imaging camera, with the Nikon brand on front, it is
>    coming.  As good as the D5 or D500.  Better.  Just wait a couple more
>    years....... maybe sooner.....
>    Because you ain't going to see new, high end DSLR development in the
>    future.  Brand N or C..  Or other.
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>    Frank Filippone
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