[Leica] How many people have/will buy M10/M10M?

Howard L Ritter Jr hlritter at bex.net
Sun Nov 3 21:59:15 PST 2019


Richard—

Another reason to upgrade to get increased MPx is not for super-high resolution in the full-frame image, but for the ability to crop significantly and still have a detailed image. Considering that a 12MPx file will produce a 13 x 19” print with >200 dpi, a 48MPx file from the 28mm Leica Q2 will produce a similar print from 1/4 of its sensor, a 50% crop, equivalent to a 56mm lens in front of a 12MPx sensor, about what we had with a 50mm ‘cron on the M8. And an 8 x 12” print needs only 4 MPx, 1/12 of the Q2’s sensor area or a crop whose equivalent FOV is that of a nearly 100mm lens. When we get the 28mm Qx with a 100MPx sensor, it’ll be like having a 28-135 zoom. That’s when I’ll buy one.

And lenses are capable of using this resolution. A few years ago I did an experiment with a variety of cameras from 12MPx P&S to 36MPx full-frame 35, each with a 24mm (actual) lens and found that as pixel size decreased, captured detail in the subject kept increasing at least until the pixel size was small enough that a FF sensor with that pixel size would have 100MPx, maybe more. 

—howard

> On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:11 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Howard. I am considering selling a few cameras and upgrade to an
> M10-P now. With my corroded M9, I can "upgrade" for $6000. I really love
> the M9 B&W conversion, and the M10-P may be all the camera I want/need
> until a few years after M10M comes out and comes down in price.
> 
> I don't "need" super high res. My 4x5 and 8x10 can do those ;-)
> 
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 8:36 PM Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>> I love my M240 and MM, whose 24 MPx sensors (like my dear departed
>> NEX-7’s) give me stunning resolution – see
>> 
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000678.jpg.html
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000678.jpg.html
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000565.jpg.html
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/L1000565.jpg.html
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/DSC00310.jpg.html
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/Iceland+for+Gallery/DSC00310.jpg.html
>>> 
>> 
>> View large to see details.
>> 
>> That’s why it would take at least a twofold increase in pixel count to get
>> me interested.
>> 
>> —howard
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am waiting for the 60MP M.  With IBIS.
>>> 
>>> Without the 25% Duty surcharge.
>>> 
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> 
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just wondering who has purchased an M10 (I know Howard C did, may be John
>>> M?), and who might purchase one, and who might consider getting the M10M
>>> when that becomes available?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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