[Leica] Editing

Wed Jul 31 19:02:30 PDT 2019

Right Ted that’s the other thing I also agree with and tell people to no avail. Editors are People! They edit stuff! And they sure as hell don't print in the darkroom or develop negs that’s the last place you'd find them unless a light table is there! But these guys don’t care they just like messing with the language coming up with buzz words, memes and as far as I go.... Weasel Words! (which means words which really don't mean anything)
And I've agreed with your take on editors who chop the heads out of your pix and have no concept of a balanced composition nor respect for yours! I think the proper name for these guys are "paste up artists". Some of whom call themselves editors or art directors.
As we get more experienced and people know who we are more they feel less uninhibited as chopping block artists and butcher our images less.
To get back at them I'd print an 11x14 or even bigger full frame black border and hang it up on my wall so some people know what these images really look like. And or put them in my "book" which means portfolio and show them to anyone who'd look.

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 7/31/19, 9:13 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ted Grant via LUG" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

    Hi Mark,
    As you well know back in the days when newspapers' had a "city editor who quite often was also the "photo editor" whom upon editing the photos for the latest edition. Used a large pair of scissors' and would say out loud....."2 column!" 
    And in a flash he chopped "edited the print" to a composition size to fit a 2 column page space. 
    Most "city editors I have worked with have been "blind in both eyes" when it came to correct & true beautifying a picture page in beauty! Only to chop the photo to fit a "column size" DESTROYING IN MOST CASES THE "composition" BEAUTY of the photo completely!
    cheers,
    Dr. ted grant O.C.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
    Sent: July-31-19 5:30 PM
    To: Leica Users Group
    Subject: Re: [Leica] Editing

    I wonder what they use for the term "Editing" now  as it doesn’t mean "Editing" any more.
    Part of this is that the thread name is "Editing" which for the whipper snappers out there are fixated on video rhetoric "Editing" means "processing". Although sometimes the word  "post" or "post processing" works.
    It all makes sense I guess if you pretend you are making a video thing is we're not we are making photographs and you shoot the pictures , process them and print them and then edit the ones you're going to use in the end. Or edit the ones you are going to print.
    So the thread "Editing" here really means just that. That’s enough to confuse a bunch of people. Not use though!

    I wonder what they use for the term "Editing" now  as it doesn’t mean "Editing" any more.

    -- 

    Mark William Rabiner
    Photographer

    On 7/31/19, 7:35 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ted Grant via LUG" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

        THANK YOU MY DEAR TINA, A SUPER FINE LADY SHOOTER OF THE BEST!
        cheers,
        Dr.ted grant O.C.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
        Tina Manley via LUG
        Sent: July-31-19 4:27 PM
        To: Leica Users Group
        Cc: Tina Manley
        Subject: Re: [Leica] Editing

        Well, I'm not quite as old as you are, Ted, but I'm getting there!!

        You have always been an inspiration and are probably the reason I am still
        a photographer today.

        Lots of love from SC,

        TIna

        On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 7:19 PM Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
        wrote:

        > INTERESTING FILING AND EDITING? :-)
        > In the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa they have a number of
        > photographic collections from the files of Canadian PHOTOGS. Part of my
        > collection in their files at the moment 236,000 images! Not counting what
        I
        > still have in storage here.
        > EVENTUALLY, every image in my files will be added to complete everything I
        > have shot during my near 65 years shooting almost daily? It was and still
        > is
        > starting at Age 20 yrs.old and still having fun doing it when I can and my
        > 90 year old body will let me!!:-) And my LEICA's still work! :-)
        > These do not include thousands shot for clients, kept by clients. It's no
        > wonder once and a while the index finger of my right hand get's some kind
        > of
        > a twitch!!  :-)
        >  But in reality I would shoot them all over again and more if given the
        > opportunity. WHY?
        > My gosh, just for one moment think about re-living your life over doing
        > nothing but shooting paid assignments about your country and many more
        > about
        > the world!
        > BOOKS PUBLISHED and sold about the world and sold to many, many LUG
        > shooters
        > and CD's produced for TV & sold about the world to networks.
        > Like I said the other day when I was asked, "if today you had the offer to
        > go anywhere to shoot an assignment? Where would you go???"
        > MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS? "OUTER SPACE" without a blink of an eye! "YEP!"
        > WELL I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD ON "PAID ASSIGNMENTS" by clients, why
        > wouldn't I pick some place I haven't been? :-)
        > But then that has been my life! Loving it 99.9% of the time including
        > today.
        > What interesting shoots I can still do properly!
        > cheers,
        > Dr. Ted Grant O.C.
        >
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
        > Of
        > Steve Barbour via LUG
        > Sent: July-30-19 5:37 PM
        > To: Tina; Leica LUG
        > Cc: Steve Barbour
        > Subject: Re: [Leica] Editing
        >
        >
        > > On 2019-07-30 15:35, Tina Manley via LUG wrote:
        > >> PESO:
        > >> I am cleaning up old files on my Drobo and trying to consolidate
        > >> everything.  Years ago, I spent a couple of weeks with Maggie Steber, a
        > >> photo editor, who helped me edit 50,000 of my Honduran photos down to
        > about
        > >> 24.  The problem is that I have many, many more than the original
        50,000
        > >> that she edited.  According to my LR files, I have 174,258 photos of
        > >> Honduras.  If I spend the rest of my life editing them I will not
        > finish.
        >
        > > yes!
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > >
        >
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