[Leica] Advantages of M lenses on the SL compared to R lenses? Adapters?

Tue Jan 15 08:13:23 PST 2019

Sent before I finished!!  I brought the M 24/2.8 and the M 50/1.4 and the
adapters on this trip but I am using them on the M240 and the MM, not on
the SL.  The results with the SL lenses surpass anything I can get with a
manual focus lens.  I've been very happy with the results I'm getting on
this trip.  It is a very hectic trip, though, with not much time on any
one subject.  I just don't have time to manually focus the M or the R
lenses.  The auto-focus on the SL works so well, I'm not tempted at all to
use the other lenses.

Tina

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:08 PM Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree.  I have the SL and all of the adapters for R and M lenses;
> however, I find myself reaching for the SL lenses instead.
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 2:03 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
>> OFF TOPIC in a way, yet.
>>
>> From my experience, using legacy lenses on current bodies is more often
>> than not a waste of time and bucks.
>>
>> You loose so much in terms of fringing, slow operation and hazardous
>> rings, focusing wide open and then closing down, manual focusing, flare,
>> distortion, ease of use, that any kit lens ( well the leica ones aren’t
>> cheap I must admit ) is probably better in the field than older faithful
>> and trusted ones.
>>
>> George of the icicles spoke of systems (lens and body). And he most
>> certainly is even more right these days than when he wrote it.
>>
>> As a frustrated R user (R3MOT, R4, R8), I claim that Leica never lived up
>> to the promise of an  « adequate solution » for R users and lens owners.
>>
>> The SL is a new system per se, and should be used as such I’m both happy
>> and sorry to say.
>>
>> Amities
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>>
>>
>> > Le 14 janv. 2019 à 18:56, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> a
>> écrit :
>> >
>> > We will soon have more body choices to the Leica SL... the Panasonic
>> body is supposed to be announced soon.  More of the Leica user base will be
>> looking for these ( and other) bodies for their existing R or M optics.
>> What would be helpful is to have those that have used the system for a
>> while give the rest an idea of what works and what does not.
>> > Several members have SL bodies, and may have adapted their M lenses or
>> R lenses to the SL.  It would be very informative if members could post
>> their experiences with the various combinations, especially if they have
>> tried both M and R versions on their SL.
>> > Some ideas......What adapter do you use that does the job?  There are 3
>> possible (China adapters not included) solutions:  R-SL adapter.  R-M plus
>> M to SL 2 pieces adaptation.  Novoflex R-SL adapter.  Did you experiment
>> with one or another solutions and found them unsatisfactoy?  Why?
>> > Yes, they all work with almost all the R lenses or M lenses, this is
>> taken for granted.  Did R lenses work “better” or “worse” than the
>> equivalent M solution?  What did you identify as the reason one was
>> “better” than the other?
>> > Some long Telephoto R lenses will vignette with the use of the R to M
>> adapter followed by the M to SL adapter.  ( Caused by the smaller throat of
>> the M adapter compared to the R-SL direct adapter).  Use one of the 1 stage
>> adapter to avoid this.  They work.
>> > What anomalies have you found?  What is “weird” when you use your older
>> lenses?  What did NOT work?
>> > How do you focus?  Open up lenses to max aperture and focus, then shut
>> down lens to working aperture?  Do you magnify the view when focusing?  Use
>> the Focus confirmation indicator?
>> > Based on your personal experiences, what would be your “wish list”
>> adapter look like?  Features wanted?  R to SL or M to SL?
>> > For those about to write how nice the SL native lenses work and the
>> quality of images made,..... We all know native lenses are more ergonomic
>> to use, and robably produce “better” (optically) images. It is the $4-5-6K
>> per lens that is the underlying point of using adapted  R or M lenses,
>> which cost a small fraction ( in most cases) of their newer brothers.  Not
>> everyone is rich enough to afford a set of 4-5-6 times $5K lenses.
>> >
>> > From what I have read to date:The “best” adapter is the one piece R to
>> L adapter.  It transfers fstop ( estimated NOT direct aperture reaad out)
>> and focal length of the ROM lens to the body for writing into the EXIF
>> file.  Optical lens corrrections can be automatically applied.
>> > The “best” M adapter is the M to SL adapter as it transfers the 6 bit
>> code of the lens to the body.  Optical lens corrections can be
>> automatically applied.
>> >
>> > The Novoflex adapters are all basic tubes.  No info from the lens is
>> transmitted to the body...none.  You may manually enter this info into the
>> body by selection from a menu of lenses.  ( same is true for any dumb
>> Chinese adapters) or non-ROM lenses on Leica made adapters.
>> > No existant adapter has any mechanical connection to the lens
>> mechanics.  None of the aperture connections will work with R lenses.
>> >
>> > Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net
>> >
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