[Leica] Enhance Details

Jim Nichols jhnichols at lighttube.net
Wed Feb 13 12:29:56 PST 2019 

I see your point, Tina.  I like the image of the craftsman with the 
sewing machine much better.  Although this is a heavy duty machine, it 
is very similar in appearance to the used Singer treadle-powered machine 
that my Mother had when I was a child. The accessories were enclosed in 
a felt-lined varnished wooden box that opened up flat to expose all of 
the gimmicks.  I explored it all.  Today, the best one can hope for is a 
fragile plastic or cardboard container.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 2/13/2019 1:23 PM, Tina Manley via LUG wrote:
> And, once again, the original files are all still there, untouched, thanks
> to Lightroom.  I often post photos that are unmanipulated but the critics
> seem to zero in on the ones that I have exaggerated on purpose for stock
> sales.  I know what sells.  I have been selling stock photography for over
> 40 years.  Tastes have changed throughout the years and what once would
> have been a best-seller is not even noticed today.  In order to sell, the
> photos have to stand out from the crowd.  Alamy, my main but not only stock
> agency, now has over 156 million photos in their files.  If you search for
> Travel, you get this selection:
>
> https://www.alamy.com/search.html?CreativeOn=1&adv=1&ag=0&all=1&creative=&et=0x000000000000000000000&vp=0&loc=0&qt=travel&qn=&lic=6&lic=1&imgt=0&archive=1&dtfr=&dtto=&hc=&selectdate=&size=0xFF&aqt=&epqt=&oqt=&nqt=&gtype=0
>
> Notice the ones that come to the top of the search?  They are exactly as
> you describe - exaggerated and painterly.  That's because that's what
> sells.  I am working on my taxes now and Alamy tells me that I made $76,377
> last year from the photos that I have with them.  That's not nearly as much
> as it used to be but it's certainly better than it would be if I posted
> only the photos that I prefer and that are more "natural".  I have the
> "natural", unmanipulated photos which I save for my own clients who tend to
> be non-profits who pay nothing except the knowledge that you are helping to
> raise money for worthy causes.  I can only afford to use my photography to
> help others because I make money with the stock.  Did you even notice the
> photos I posted of Syrian refugees??  I've raised over $50,000 with those,
> so far, 100% of which goes to the education of Syrian children.
>
> Rant over.  I'm going back to manipulating my photos of Bangladesh so they
> will sell.  This one will be more painterly and exaggerated when it is
> posted on Alamy:
>
> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168812581
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 1:33 PM Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't disagree with John's opinion about images that look over-processed.
>> These images look like that, on LR, the "Clarity" is pushed up way high,
>> "Shadows" lifted high, and the "Highlights" brought down a lot. As a
>> result, the overall dynamic contrast is reduced, while local contrast is
>> increased for the extra "pop." The reduced dynamic contrast gives them more
>> of a "painted" look.
>>
>> I've observed that a lot in real-estate listings, while the interior looks
>> as bright as the outside. Combined with extreme wide-angle lenses, they
>> have the dramatic effect of an otherwise mundane subject. It used to be
>> quite fashionable for newspaper photographers to use an extreme wide angle
>> or tele for that dramatic look, even though the unnatural perspectives
>> distorted the subjects and actually took the eyes away from the subjects.
>> However, they "popped" out of the dull newsprint paper.
>>
>> I am surmising that, in the photography stock market, the images are more
>> akin to a résumé. They need to scream out for attention, as the editor is
>> sifting through thousands of images, and the image has to have an immediate
>> impact to be chosen. If the editor wants a more natural look, s/he could
>> request such an image, I'd imagine.
>>
>> However, I cannot conceal my disdain for such over-processed, super-HDR
>> look that has flooded the market. Professional photographers in the
>> business have to follow the trend to stay afloat, but at a more personal
>> level, I strive to create images that recreate the experience of
>> encountering the scene. It may involve some manipulation to bring the
>> images closer to what my eyes saw, but I don't want the Lightroom
>> manipulations to dominate. At the end of the day, it's about the subjects
>> and their stories. The images I prefer are those whose photographic
>> process, all the way from the lens, camera, to the final medium, are
>> transparent to viewers, and bring the viewers to the subjects.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 15:49, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Prints and stock are totally different markets.  I know what I'm doing.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:48 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>> No, but the prints I sell usually get the reaction that they look
>> natural
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
>>>> Sent: 12 February 2019 23:47
>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>> Cc: Tina Manley
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Enhance Details
>>>>
>>>> Do you make your living leasing stock photos??  I do.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:44 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Whatever, IMO your images that you show look over-processed...
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org]
>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Tina Manley via LUG
>>>>> Sent: 12 February 2019 21:46
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Cc: Tina Manley
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Enhance Details
>>>>>
>>>>> For some images a little detail enhancement makes the difference.  I
>> do
>>>> it
>>>>> now with external software programs.  It would be great to do it
>>> without
>>>>> leaving LR.  Just one more thing that LR makes easier.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:36 PM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You own many thousands of dollars worth of equipment, why do you
>>> think
>>>>> you
>>>>>> need this?  Isn't that why we buy Leica....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PESO:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Adobe LR upgrade today says that it includes the new Enhance
>>>> Details
>>>>>> feature.  I've upgraded and my Windows is up to date; however,
>> when I
>>>> go
>>>>> to
>>>>>> Photo > Enhance Details, a pop up window tells me I need to upgrade
>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> 10 to October 2018 before I can use this feature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Windows is totally up to date.  Google searches tell me nothing.
>>>>>> Anybody have a clue??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Tina Manley
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>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>>>>> <
>>>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
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>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>>>> <
>>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>>> <
>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
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>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ken Iisaka
>> first name at last name dot org or com
>>
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