[Leica] SL2 arrived

Tue Dec 10 16:38:37 PST 2019

Having several years of Sony Alpha experience, I’d just interject that for me the system’s no nightmare, rather it’s like a full pantry. It lets me use what I need or want, and if I decide to try something new to me, the solution is right there available for my use.  I use several lenses, and while I keep some Leica glass, I’ve slipped away from using it as the Sony, Zeiss and now a couple of Samyang lenses do a pretty wonderful job.  The A7r3 is the most useful camera I’ve ever owned, and I doubt I’ll go to a four, but never say never.  I’ll always be a Leica photographer at heart, but in my hand will probably be Sonny’s Sony. 

I hope you enjoy the Two!

Sent from my iPhone

Sonny Carter
http://www.SonC.com/look

> On Dec 10, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
> 
> If I was invested in a Sony system, I don't think I'd make the jump. Sony
> is a fine system, though I don't think its lenses are at the same level as
> Leica SL lenses. However, the SL system natively only goes to 280mm, and
> that's Doug's "wide" lens.
> 
> However, its viewfinder is amazing. I thought I was in 7th heaven with SL,
> but SL2 kicks it up a notch. The same display panel is used in other
> cameras but the optical system may or may not be the same. The focus peak
> feature is better than SL, too, with both the native lens or adapted M- and
> R- lenses.
> 
> I could have saved a few thousand dollars and get similar quality images
> with the Panasonic S1R. However, I've found its user interface to be a
> nightmare, which is also my view of the Sony system. Also, the ease with
> which I can use legacy lenses is great with the SL2, though I'd suspect
> that the Panasonic body too would recognize coded M-lenses with a Leica
> adapter.
> 
> I also like the fact that the same battery can be used for SL, SL2 and Q2.
> 
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 14:29, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Doug,
>> I would suggest you rent a Sony A7RIV before you leap back into Leica.  I
>> say this as both cameras are relatively equal in performance with a nod to
>> the Sony for larger files, better high ISO performance and a smaller body.
>> Not by much but you have a substantial investment in lenses at this point.
>> I have adapted a lot of lenses to other bodies and the native mount is
>> always the best; there is always some loss in the translation.
>> 
>> Personally, I am waiting for the M11 with the higher count sensor as I have
>> rediscovered my love for the M's and being able to walk with a widish lens
>> that crops into a telephoto improves spontaneity and lightens the load on
>> my shoulder.  I fully recognize the burden of high MP files versus the 24
>> of an M10 but memory on multiply redundant drives is cheap compared to an
>> APO Summicron or Noctilux or 21 Summilux.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:58 PM Douglas Herr via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> ARGGGHHH!
>>> 
>>> I wish I hadn't read this!
>>> 
>>> Doug Herr
>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.org>
>>>> Sent: Dec 9, 2019 4:19 PM
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: [Leica] SL2 arrived
>>>> 
>>>> So, I had been on the fence about getting an SL2. I knew I didn't "need"
>>> 47
>>>> mp. I also thought the Q2 I acquired a few months ago produced
>>> unbelievably
>>>> fantastic results when I took it on a trip to Italy a while back, too.
>>>> 
>>>> Yet, I put myself on a waiting list for an SL2, thinking that it won't
>> be
>>>> until some time next year until I receive it, and I thought I would have
>>>> some time to decide whether I really wanted it or not.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, it turned out that I got an e-mail last week that I would be
>>>> receiving one soon. Panicked, I debated whether to cancel the order, but
>>>> the lapse of judgment let it slip by, and a box arrived a few days
>> later.
>>>> 
>>>> I have not shot many pictures with it yet but here are a few things:
>>>> 
>>>> The image stabilization works incredibly well, with a native SL lens, as
>>>> well as a coded M lens. It even worked well with a non-ROM R lens,
>> after I
>>>> set the lens spec through its touch-screen UI which is extremely
>>> intuitive,
>>>> even better than SL. This means I'll take more hand-held pictures with
>> my
>>>> collection of M- and R- mount lenses. Stabilization seems to work even
>>>> better than the Q2.
>>>> 
>>>> Mounted on a tripod, it captures far more details than I can see with my
>>>> very own eyes. I have recently printed a landscape taken with a Q2 to
>>>> 16"x24", and immediately ordered the same with 24"x36". Because the Q2
>>>> picture had to be cropped a little bit from the original, I wasn't using
>>>> all the information that was captured. With the excellent 24-90, I can
>>>> really use every square millimeter of the sensor. The result is
>> comparable
>>>> to, dare I say, 4x5. Over the weekend, I took some pictures around the
>>>> Fitzgerald Marine Reserve in San Mateo County at dusk, and came home
>> with
>>>> stunning images, taken with 30-second exposures.
>>>> 
>>>> With a compact prime lens, I can see it making the Q2 redundant, even if
>>> Q2
>>>> is lighter than the SL2 body alone. However, the Q2 is so invisible,
>> where
>>>> the SL/SL2 seem so imposing. I will likely keep the Q2 to take
>> snapshots,
>>>> but the SL2 will probably be used more often than the SL was.
>>>> 
>>>> With my previous Leica and non-Leica cameras, I was aware of their
>>>> limitations, be it an M3, M6, M8, or a Leicaflex SL2 or even the digital
>>>> SL. Now, it feels like there are no limits.
>>>> 
>>>> The only other time I felt the same astonishment was when I tried a
>> Leica
>>>> M3 for the first time, after years of Japanese SLRs. Or, the time I
>> tried
>>> a
>>>> Fazioli concert grand after decades of playing Steinways. It just felt
>>> like
>>>> the universe just got bigger beyond my ken.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone wants to buy an SL, cheap?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Iisaka
>>>> first name at last name dot org or com
>>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Don
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>> 
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> 
> 
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> Ken Iisaka
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> 
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