[Leica] New Leica!

Tue Apr 2 12:36:34 PDT 2019

In the film days I seldom cropped and printed full frame black border like most serious photographers I knew. We filed out our negative carriers till Omega started making them that way.
If you cropped at all it meant you lost your black border. And that print stood out in a stack in a big bad way. Looked flat.
The Magnum photographers pushed the crop with your eye not with your enlarger thing it was a big deal for them.
Henry Cartier Bresson had quotes on it. The sacredness of what the eye first sees needing to be respected and so on.
But we all knew it was the really about the thin black borders around the images. No one wanted a print without them in their book or stack.
Photographer Richard Kalvar showed his tray at a LHSA meeting in Solms in September 2006 and gave us the never crop your pictures blurbs which shocked me because I thought those days had past . He ran Magnum for a while I think I read. I went up to him afterwards and asked him about it and was lacking charm department. He was less than amused.
With digital all that full frame no crop stuff has gone by the wayside along with the black borders and printing itself.
Photogs now crop like a sun of a gun.  Especially when the sun is out and our iso is rock bottom giving us zero noise and high rez. We also correct our perspective like crazy too. 
Why? Because we can!
And a bunch of other stuff.

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Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

On 4/2/19, 10:32 AM, "LUG on behalf of Steve Barbour via LUG" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

    The "No-Croppers” will not buy it.

    Steve

    > On Apr 2, 2019, at 6:56 AM, CartersXRd via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    > 
    > The Q2 will will present an interessting artistic quandry of those who refuse to crop the sacred 3:2 format.
    > 
    > Will throwing the switch from 28 to 35 or 50 or 75 be a sinful crop, or present a whole new holy rectangle?
    > 
    > ric
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >> On Apr 2, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Howard Ritter via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >> 
    >> For me, digital zoom is a bit like an automatic transmission (or a point-and-shoot function in a camera). It accomplishes one thing, a center crop of fixed size, effortlessly. If you can work a clutch and shift stick in your favorite image-processing program, you can have a crop centered anywhere, of any size, of any dimensions. And you get to work in raw/png/dng/tiff rather than jpeg.
    >> 
    >> I frankly, no pun intended, don’t see the allure. Except maybe that the VF crops the view as well as the sensor.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> —howard
    >> 
    >>> On Apr1, 2019, at 1432, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> The new Leica Q2 has the following specs....
    >>> 24x36 full frame sensor
    >>> Sensor has resolution of 47.3MP
    >>> Summilux 28 mm f/1.7 ASPH fixed, non-zoom, and non-interchangeable lens
    >>> OLED viewfinder has a resolution of 3.68 megapixels  ( no optical RF or VF)
    >>> 
    >>> Internal cropping ( now referred to as "digital zoom") of this lens allows for the following fixed equivalent Fl and resolutions.....  BUT for JPG files ONLY!!
    >>> Zoom 28 mm: 47 megapixels (8368x5584 pixels), 24 megapixels (6000x4000 pixels), 12 megapixels (4271x2848 pixels). 3 different resolutions, I guess dependent on JPG compression ratios.....
    >>> Zoom 35 mm: 30 megapixels (6704x4472 pixels), 15 megapixels (4800x3200 pixels), 8 megapixels (3424x2288 pixels)
    >>> Zoom 50 mm: 15 megapixels (4688x3128 pixels), 8 megapixels (3360x2240 pixels), 4 megapixels (2400x1600 pixels)
    >>> Zoom 75 mm: 7 megapixels (3136x2096 pixels), 3 megapixels (2240x1496 pixels), 2 megapixels (1600x1072 pixels)
    >>> 
    >>> DNG:  RAW files of 47.3MP  No Zoom at all.  Crop in your choice of LR, or other.....
    >>> 
    >>> As long as you are happy to shoot JPG files, this is a fine set of specs.
    >>> If you wish to shoot RAW images, not as much.... but you o get to crop in your own HxW ratios and specific areas to crop.
    >>> 
    >>> If they would simply put a M mount on the camera, forget the AF, and focus the camera on the Digi-M functions, it would be a fine camera for me.
    >>> 
    >>> Frank Filippone
    >>> 
    >>> Red735i at verizon.net
    >>> 
    >>> 
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