[Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.

[Don Dory]

Welcome back Geoff,
I would welcome your posting of the images you prefer to take.  Discussion
is a good thing; if everyone has good will then we all learn something.  If
one of your subjects has a tattoo then how did you deal with it; that
discussion would be interesting.  If you choose a model that is a plus size
then that is also of interest with so many in the developed world having
weight issues.

Most if not all of the LUG posters are civilized in their comments and
criticisms so please post.

All the best.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> When you began posting your semi-nude models I became extremely amazed as
> they stood far beyond the usual "GARBAGE" offered often seen as we click
> through incoming mail.
> I must again offer that your modeling images stand so far ahead of the bulk
> offered by others yours fall into beautiful well created photographs
> constantly!
> Where so many of all others offered are nothing more than garbage which I
> absolutely abhor and delete immediately. Quite frankly the LUG has always
> been and still is a high class photo system to always be held to the
> highest
> of politeness and cleanliness of image and thought!
> AFTER ALL IT IS A FAMILY LOCATION!
> cheers,
> Dr. Ted Grant O.C.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Geoff Hopkinson via LUG
> Sent: May-09-18 3:55 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Geoff Hopkinson
> Subject: [Leica] Subject: Was Need printing paper advice, Now NUDITY TINA.
>
> Hello all. I mainly follow via browsing the archives. I thought that this
> thread contained many little insights into attitudes of those posting.
> Quite a mix of subjects included.
> To focus on the photography only I edited out comments I was going to
> include regarding Facebook, Me Too and Russian activities.
>
> I regularly shoot fashion nude as Ted knows. Those models are adult women,
> in charge of themselves and almost always well paid professionals who have
> chosen to specialise in that modelling genre.
>
>  I see no exploitation nor power imbalance in that scenario. The opposite
> in fact, where genuine photographers go to lengths to ensure that the model
> is respected and comfortable.
> Shooting nudes is anything but sexual, or should be. It brings its own
> challenges for light and pose and beauty.
> I can predict what any one of those women would have to say, regarding
> being exploitation, or power imbalance or being told what they should do
> etc.
>
> I looked at the link provided and noticed a lot of work that I think fits
> Tina's characterisation of salacious and unenjoyable. I think it would be
> unfair to label the whole genre in that way.
>
> I stopped sharing any images whether fashion/beauty or with any nudity in
> the LUG simply because they didn't seem to fit with anything anyone else
> shares.
> Worse though (not specific to the LUG) is where the only comments might
> actually be a personal comment about the model's body, not of the
> photography.
>  I hate tattoos or she needs a good feed or the like.  That attitude and if
> people want to impose their own standards on others, I see as a society
> problem.
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
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