[Leica] Need printing paper advice

[Tina Manley]

I'll claim a "Me, too" here and say that I do not appreciate any nudes
which appear to take advantage of unwitting females for the sole purpose of
exposing their bodies salaciously.  Gratuitous nakedness for the purpose of
arousal of one sex at the expense of the other, but claiming to be art,
offends me.

That said, I appreciate nudity as art, but not as pornography.  Most of the
nude photography I have seen on the internet falls under the category of
"old, rich man with cameras taking advantage of poor, young girls with no
clothes who think they will be famous models."  On Facebook, the St.
Petersburg Photographic Society photos are almost entirely in that
category.  I find them very offensive and demeaning to women.

If the nudity is labeled as such, I will view it and make my own decisions
as to whether or not to view more by that photographer. I do defend their
right to post the photos and do not approve of censorship.

Tina

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I have had very good results with the Epson Velvet Fine Art for a matte
> paper, and Ilford Gold Mono Silk for glossy b&w (no idea why a particular
> paper would be better for b&w, but I like it).  Another excellent matte
> paper is Hahnemuhle Torchon or most any of the Hahnemuhle papers for that
> matter.  The photo ink line on my Epson 3880 failed, so I've been
> revisiting the matte papers.  I'll order a new P800 anyway, but it has been
> an eye-opener after printing only on gloss papers the last several years.
>
> Speaking of nudes, many years ago I joined a local photography club and it
> had a "competition" night.  In the spirit of things, I entered a b&w nude
> from a class with Cole Weston.  I was given one point out of five because
> "nudes are not an appropriate subject for a photo club".  In retrospect,
> they were pretty awful.
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 5/4/2018 1:15 PM, Richard Clompus via LUG wrote:
>
>> I have taken to heart the concept that you need to print your best
>> images.  Storing them on a hard drive makes it difficult to really enjoy
>> them or to give them to others as gifts.  So my current project is to print
>> a portfolio of black & white nude images taken during a Leica Master Class
>> with Ralph Gibson in San Francisco. I learned a lot from him in 3 days. I’m
>> very pleased with the images but have no clue how to exhibit them.  I’ve
>> hesitated to post nudes to our gallery but would be willing to share a few
>> if there is interest.  They are reminiscent of timeless nudes from Imogen
>> Cunningham and Edward Weston.
>>
>> I’m printing with an Epson P800 printer and started with Epson Velvet
>> Fine Art Paper (8.5 x 11”).  Its a mat paper, 100% rag content, acid free,
>> 19 mil thickness, 260 gm weight with a slightly textured surface.  I’m
>> ready to treat myself with better paper but don’t have any experience with
>> rag paper from Moab, Canson, Hahnemühle or Museo.  These fine art papers
>> get expensive very quickly so I’ve decided to use 8.5 x 11 for now.
>>
>> Can someone share their experience with the rag paper of their choice?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Richard
>>
>> Richard Clompus
>> California
>>
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