[Leica] More with the Rolleiflex

[Lluis Ripoll]

Hi Jayanand

Thank you for your comment, I think you have described exactly the diffferences, they produce different image looks and choose one is a question of personal preferences. The way as I work scanning film with Vuescan allows me be very flexible, I have selected the output of my scans in a DNG file, I can of course devope several times the same image and adjust the curves with more precision and flexibility too.

Concerning Capture One, I encourage you to test it the trial version during 30 days, if I can be of  some help don’t hesitate to ask me, in my opinion CO is very intuitive, fast and easy to operate, however  your finalachievement of the colors with your actual software is really great.

Cheers
Lluis


> El 2 maig 2018, a les 5:06, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> 
> Lluis,
> Maybe the problem is not so much with the post processing, but the digital
> medium itself? As I know for sure, your film output translates very well
> into darkroom prints! I am also thinking of changing to Capture One because
> of its superior handling of Fuji files, but the thought of learning,
> in-depth, of another intricate, complex piece of software has really put me
> off till now! :-)
> 
> My personal view is that digital output has a much smoother, and far more
> controllable tonal curve. What is more, the RAW file is akin to unexposed
> film that can be processed a million times for various outputs, making it
> far more flexible, and forgiving of mistakes, than film. I am not a big fan
> of the grungy, grainy look for its own sake - if that is the way the end
> result turns out, so be it, but I probably am not going to add grain the
> size of golfballs to achieve a "Tri X pushed to ASA 1600" look in my
> digital files, in the mistaken impression that only that is true B&W. Both
> are different mediums with different characteristics, and so be it. The
> same caveat holds for digital printing vs darkroom printing as well.
> 
> That said, to each his own, the diversity of views, and civilized debate of
> the same, is what makes it fun!
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:37 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jayanand
>> 
>> Thanks for looing and for your comment, concerning your comment about the
>> output I have to comment that my negatives have a correct density normally
>> between 0,65 and 0,70 and they print well on the darkroom, the effect you
>> comment could be done for
>> 
>> a) Your and my Monitor differences: I don’t think so
>> b) The scanning process: I use a cheap scanner Plustek and I adjust the
>> contrast and brilliance individually for every negative, usually give a
>> small curve of contrast
>> c) The editing: I know you are an experienced and good photographer and
>> you are not referring to the “clinic” aspect of some of the digital
>> pictures, even so they are always more “clinic” than with film. As you know
>> I mainly use Capture One V10 what is in my opinion better than LR, but also
>> in his standard settings produce more detail or “Presence” than LR, many
>> times I have to decrease this up to -10% or -20%, when I edit the same
>> picture with both there is a big difference, normally LR looks more
>> “clinic” and with smooth tones than CO, maybe this is the reason about the
>> look you comment…. What do you think?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 1 maig 2018, a les 4:39, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> The second one for me. I still prefer the tones of your digital output to
>>> your film stuff, which ends up on my monitor as being harsh and
>>> contrasty....
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 3:44 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Similar dressed (I have added this one on the album of my already
>>>> published project “Double-Double”)
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Double-Double/
>>>> 2018F040201.jpg.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Three Ladies in Pl. Catalunya
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/
>>>> 2018F040204.jpg.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Alone in a Bar
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/
>>>> 2018F040210.jpg.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Rolleiflex E, Zeiss Planar 2.8/80mm, Ilford FP4, Xtol Stock, the two
>> first
>>>> with Yellow Filter
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>> 
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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