[Leica] First film in a long time Book Revenge of the Analog

Fri Jun 8 11:08:53 PDT 2018

Because digital makes everything so easy, there is a return to hand crafted art….heck, aside from the awesome glass plates I will feed to my Sanderson Tropical Camera this weekend, there is very little there you cannot obtain from Amazon with just BUY WITH ONE CLICK…

And my Sanderson has a lot more soul than my Fuji X Leica M8 and Nikon D3/4/700…

Last weekend at the Salem Oregon Famr Market I had a Kodak 35 (if you want fun film cameras Shadowsmith in Corvallis Oregon) from Shadowsmith the small version, I also carried a Fuji X Pro…obviously a farm market is hand crafters but the Kodak got the love and comments and can I hold it and the Fuji got one guy to ask if I preferred the X Trans Processor…

Though photography essentially eliminated the need for landscape and portrait painting they never went away…

My 2 cents

> On Jun 8, 2018, at 4:35 AM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
> 
> Other than  churls like myself, who cling to film as Victorian spinsters
> clung to antimacassars, there's no reason to stay with film.
> 
> However, pre digital media made many photographic careers possible that
> would otherwise not exist.  Prior to the advent of digital imaging, it took
> some skill and technical expertise to get anything worthwhile for
> publication.  That equalled jobs--the pro who could get the shot without a
> Polaroid test, the Ektachrome retoucher, darkroom specialists, master
> printers, etc.  Inefficient creation and distribution of information made
> good-paying careers that no longer exist.  In today's media environment a
> prime minister sliding down a banister would robably have been captured on
> video by more than one amateur with a smartphone and instantly made
> available over many platforms.  Within ten minutes it might have become a
> meme.  Only the distribution channels would have (possibly) made any money
> from it.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 10:30 PM Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tina,
>> I CAN'T IMAGINE RETURNING TO "film!" It is an archaic form of recording
>> photo image/moments!
>> I also realize there are a great number of photog-newbie's trying it and I
>> think that is wonderful for them to have a go at souping film and the big
>> pain in the butt in doing so!
>> But during my career on assignments I would return to home and darkroom
>> with several hundred rolls of film to process and make contact sheets. Not
>> just the two or three rolls from about the city assignments.
>> Where today and digital, the darkroom is eliminated all together!!!!
>> Yes there's a sort of "computer/screen time editing" after a shoot/ but
>> nothing to clean-up.
>> There isn't any mess to clean print washers and dryers, nor darkroom to
>> always have to clean-up, along with all the garbage.
>> It just isn't worth the cost of photo paper, film, enlarger, chemicals,
>> dyers and all the rest of the paraphernalia.
>> But too each his/her own which they may choose. But if someone begins with
>> digital? Then tries to switch to film, I just can't imagine they'll stay
>> with it other than giving it a bit of a try? Then forgetting it altogether
>> and return quickly to digital!
>> But then??? who knows???????????? :-)
>> cheers,
>> Dr. Ted Grant O.C.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of Tina Manley via LUG
>> Sent: June-07-18 1:21 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Cc: Tina Manley
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] First film in a long time
>> 
>> I do prefer the phone photo in these.  It makes me wonder why anybody
>> bothers with film these days.  I don't have the time, patience, or money to
>> use film anymore.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 12:43 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr <hlritter at twc.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I decided to dip into film photography again, and this is the first
>> fruit:
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/ <
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/hlritter/bwphotos/>
>>> 
>>> We were driving the Blue Ridge Parkway in western NC near the town of
>>> Boone. I pulled into an overlook to watch a spring shower move across the
>>> mountains and valleys. I captured a B&W film image with a Leica R9, 21-35
>>> Elmarit, and Tmax 100, and one with my iPhone. I’ve posted both, both
>>> tweaked for contrast in PS. I’ve also posted the iPhone image converted
>> to
>>> greyscale, just for comparison.
>>> 
>>> I certainly like the B&W, but I’m not sure this kind of largely
>>> mid-grey-toned scene (as opposed to Lluis-type street scenes) is what B&W
>>> is made for. Here I think the color image works best.
>>> 
>>> And I’m either disappointed in the quality of the film image or impressed
>>> by that of the iPhone image – both, I guess. This kind of image quality
>>> from a camera tucked in almost as an afterthought, just because they
>> could
>>> do it, into the corner of a cell phone! That’s borderline miraculous.
>>> 
>>> I didn’t expect this much grain with Tax 100, but I may have been
>>> heavy-handed with Photoshop on the film image. Also, the scale of the
>>> iPhone image is larger, with an equivalent FL of 28mm vs. the 21mm of the
>>> film image. I’m going to scan the negative with my own scanner to get
>>> equivalent pixels-per-degree in both images, re-process them both, and
>> see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> C&C welcome.
>>> 
>>> —howard
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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