[Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation

Gene Duprey geneduprey2015 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 15 16:40:39 PST 2018 

My M8 has worked pretty much flawless, with only the bad transistor which
put it into sleep mode upon turning it on, way back a year after I bought
it.  Since then Zero problems.  I have never had a problem with service
times, with prompt service and returns.  And I'm not a pro.  I will
probably not ever by another new Leica, as they have priced themselves WAY
out of my price range.  I'll keep my M8 until it dies, or I can buy a used
M9/M/10/SL someday in the future.

Gene


On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I really don't think I get special treatment because I'm a pro.  I do call
> and talk to the Leica repair people and am always very, very appreciative.
> I write them little notes and send them postcards and photos.  I do think
> it pays to be really nice to the people who are repairing your equipment.
> They know who I am and know they will get feedback from me.  Maybe that is
> what makes a difference.
>
> Leica used to have a professional division with expedited service.  You had
> to send in tearsheets to show that you were a working pro using Leicas.
> That hasn't been active for quite a few years now.  I think they are
> appealing to the Leica as jewelry people with their ads and campaigns, but
> the actual people who work in the repair labs still respect those of us who
> actually use the cameras.
>
> Tina
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:36 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> > More to the point...  You are a Pro and get treated as such.  I am an
> > amateur and get treated as such.....It is a different standard.  ( Pro
> > green is better than amateur green.  That is the message I receive.)
> > The M lenses, unless you drop them, or do something else ridiculous with
> > them, will last a lifetime with minimal repair assistance.
> > I have a 1930 model 90 Elmar (pre 100,000 serial number)that still is in
> > pretty perfect working condition as an example.
> >
> > The bodies may be great but it is the repairs that I am really griped
> > about....  And I do love Leica glass... really.
> >
> > My M9 is now working fine, my Monochrom is now working fine.  I need no
> > other Leica bodies.  ( somewhat thanks to Sony and Techart)
> > ( to say nothing of the fact that I can not afford the $4-5-6000 lenses
> of
> > the SL or S series)
> >
> > If the SL had an auto iris R adapter, I would have jumped right in,
> bought
> > some affordable, used, R glass, and been a happy camper ( or so I think).
> > But it didn’t and doesn't and will not.  No SL in my future.
> >
> > No more Leica bodies in my stable.
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> >
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf Of Tina Manley
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 3:21 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big SL Lens ( DIameter) explanation
> >
> > My SL 24-90 jammed when I was in Iran.  It would not zoom at all.  I sent
> > a panicked e-mail to Leica and they responded immediately.  They had had
> > two lens that had that problem.  The guy that worked on them talked me
> > through how to tug on the lens hood to get the zoom to unstick.  It
> worked
> > and I did that for the rest of the trip.  When I got back home, the lens
> > went to Leica NJ where they fixed it permanently and shipped it back to
> me
> > in less than a week.  It hasn't jammed since then.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Frank all your camera issues seem to be with M’s a camera even though
> > > digital is still very much a mechanical beast and the repair issues
> > > seem to be more mechanical than electronic.
> > > I think  the new systems now from Leica,  the SL we’ve been discussing
> > > as well as the medium format S are working out.
> > > I’m not hearing about repair problems on these newer system cameras
> > > which are more firmly based on electronics less much less on mechanical
> > systems.
> > > I think they are working out.
> > > I just can’t begin to almost afford them. They are the things dreams
> > > are made of.
> > >
> > > If I had money rolling in I’d get set up with both S and SL systems.
> > >
> > > Ironic with Leica’s mechanical camera making history they’ve got the
> > > electronics down just not the nuts and bolts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Mark William Rabiner
> > > Photographer
> > >
> > > On 1/15/18, 5:56 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone"
> > > <lug-bounces+mark= rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> > red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Who says?  Do you really trust Leica will properly repair your
> > > camera in a timely fashion?
> > >
> > >     My M6 was repaired but then they shipped me a body casting that
> > > was so dented the film cartridge would not fit.....
> > >     My M8 had to go in twice because there was not a single pixel in
> > > focus....  It appeared that the focal plane was twisted compared to
> > > the image plane.
> > >     My M9 was fine until the glass cover plate fell off....
> > >     My Monochrom was fine, with a corroded glass cover plate....
> > >
> > >     These cameras have spent a total of over 18 months being repaired.
> > >     You think pros can tolerate that kind of time without their
> > > working tools?
> > >     Excuse me, pros get treated special, it is the amateur's repairs
> > > get treated like .... dirt.
> > >
> > >     To be fair, I have never had a problem with lens repair..... (
> > > mainly because I send them to DAG to be done)
> > >
> > >     Not again.  No more Leica bodies for me. Period.
> > >
> > >     But with the Techart Leica AF adapter for the Sony A7 family plus
> > > Leica glass, why would I?  Best glass, IBIS, AF, bodies ( technology)
> > > that I can afford to grow with.
> > >
> > >
> > >     Frank Filippone
> > >
> > >     Red735i at verizon.net
> > >
> > >     I think the SL camera though costing many thousands but then not
> > > spend all the time in the shop
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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