[Leica] Sony Cameras Electronic first Shutter Curtain

[Sonny Carter]

On four Sony cameras that I’ve owned, three had Silent Shutter as an actual
setting.  The original A7r that was stolen from me did not.

When set to SS, there’s no sound from the camera upon exposure save lens
aperture or focus, barely audible.

First shutter may behave similar, but I do believe it emits a sound.

As to the color bits issue,  I find it negligible.

Color is the strong point of the A7r2 and a7r3, as it is on the A7s. Else I
would not dare the attempt on roses and other pure red and orange flowers
that I do.
 Just look at my body of work for examples. For something like 16 years
I’ve been posting my flowers on this site. Leica, Panasonic, oly, Pentax;
I’ve tried them all.  When I got to Sony I stopped looking.
I spend a bit of time editing my pictures but color is not usually part of
the effort.

Sonny



On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 1:30 AM Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:

> We are not on different pages....
> Silent shutter means electronic first and ending shutter.  basically, no
> shutter movement at all.  (Or, in the limit, no shutter at all)
>
> You are correct, as some models have electronic first shutter capability,
> both front and ending electronic shutter, some neither.
>
> Specifically, I have the A7 and A7II.  I was trying to point out the
> tradeoff of a LESS quiet ( First Shutter ) or, in my interest, less
> vibration vs less color depth.
>
> Scott... to answer your question, I have never had to do much in the line
> of image color tweaking.... sometimes, I change WB from auto to a specific
> condition ( for example, cloudy) and sometimes saturation is upped a tiny
> amount....but otherwise, I find the colors fine......
> Maybe I have low expectations?  Perhaps I like non-oversaturated colors?
> II should add that mostly I shoot landscapes.
>
> Frank Filippone Red735i at verizon.net
> On Sunday, February 18, 2018, Sonny Carter via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
> I don't thinkfirst curtain and Silent shooting is exactly the same. Silent
> is only avaiable in some Sony models, notably the A7s ans s2, and the A7r2
> and A7r3. There may be more. Guidelines for silent shooting:
> http://helpguide.sony.net/ilc/1420/v1/en/contents/TP0000525767.html First
> Curtain info:
> https://sony-paa-pa-en-web--paa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87419/~/what-is-the-electronic-front-curtain-shutter-function%3F
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Scott Gregory via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org > wrote: > Frank it seems your compromise quote is
> accurate > From what I read. And wondering how much of what one reads is
> true. For > example I have seen posts in various forms about Sony that the
> colour out > of the camera needs a lot of processing. Are you finding that?
> > > Scott > > > On Feb 17, 2018, at 1:14 PM, Frank Filippone <
> red735i at verizon.net> > wrote: > > > > There has been a flurry of talk
> about the use of this feature. ( this > is the discussion about distorted
> fast moving subjects when used with the > e-shutter which migrated from
> discussions of noisy cameras during > Pesidential news announcements) > > >
> > Sony has announced a scientific paper for a imaging sensor with an A/D >
> converter behind each sensor pixel. Using this technology would mean that >
> all the pixels woud be time registered at one time, and the distortion of >
> fast moving subjects would be eliminated. > > > > More importanty, it would
> also mean there is no need for a mechanical > shutter mechanism. > > > >
> The President’s office would again be a silent place.... or so one would >
> hope. > > > > Note that I have been using this e-shutter feature since I
> purchased my > 2 Sonys..... > > I am now experimenting with the feature
> since it has a downside. 12 vs > 14 bit color depth. > > > > Everything is
> a compromise.... is it better to have more color depth at > the expense of
> shutter shake just before the image is captured? > > > > Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net > > > >
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