[Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!

[Mister Guy]

I could scan my template if you think it would be useful.

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From: LUG <lug-bounces+bliss64=hotmail.com at leica-users.org> on behalf of Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:02:43 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Don Dory
Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!

OK, let me be the spoiler.  Other than a once a year romp exercising your
LTM body why would you use one of these?  If you are on a budget the
various Canon's are cheaper and far easier to load.  If you are a shooter a
beat up M3 can be had at under 1K US and is a far easier camera to focus
and use.

My real point is for the periodic experience of using the camera HCB used
all you need is to cut a few rolls 7-8 sprocket holes back and go have
fun.  No need to worry about TSA and scissors or knives causing delay.  And
in complete disclosure I do very occasionally take my F, IIIF BD, Canon
IVb, Canon 7 out to play: although I won't pay for another CLA as the
shutter dries out again and the slow speeds go off again.

To be very clear there are a number of examples on the web showing exactly
what the old leaders looked like so trimming a roll to a rough
approximation of that profile is not difficult.  My experience is that if
you get the trimmed part under 50% of the height of the film you are good
to load.  Several decades ago on this list we had discussions about the
various ways people loaded their cameras.  A rough consensus was to us B on
the second or third wind from loading to confirm film transport and
flatness without the lens on.

All the best

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 3:10 AM, Mister Guy via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

>
> Those leaders are easy to cut by hand with or without the template using
> scissors of all things!
>
> Curt
>
> ________________________________
> From: LUG <lug-bounces+bliss64=hotmail.com at leica-users.org> on behalf of
> Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 7:49 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IIIf - HELP!!!!
>
> Yes the LTM series was designed with the older longer leaders for loading.
> Apparently it’s a big deal if you try putting a short leader in. IT doesn’t
> like to be shorted. And will get back at you by turning your film into
> confetti inside your camera.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> On 4/10/18, 3:44 AM, "LUG on behalf of Robert Meier" <lug-bounces+mark=
> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of robertmeier at usjet.net>
> wrote:
>
>     But you need a longer leader than film comes with, not shorter.
>
>
>     > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:05 AM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     > I used to carry nail scissors and cut the leaders by hand, that was
> until the
>     > post-9/11 situation. All the fuss about what you could - and
> couldn't - carry on
>     > with you meant no more nail scissors. Now I just use the leader on
> the film and
>     > wind it round the take-up spool one extra time or so.
>     >
>     > It has incidentally affected my carbon footprint; I take trains
> internationally
>     > where I can and often drive. I fly far less than I used to.
>     >
>     > Peter
>     >
>     > On 09/04/2018 12:28, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>     >> I tried the non-template me tear it myself approach which got me
> into this mess in the first place.
>     >> I'm now going to try using an idiot template. I have a feeling no
> more messes.
>     >> My leaders will no longer possess my inimitable personality; only
> to be snipped off in the end.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     > --
>     >
>     > ===========================================================
>     > Dr Peter Dzwig
>     >
>     >
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