[Leica] M10 Monochrom oh yes!

Wed Apr 4 10:28:18 PDT 2018

Hi Ted,

Can’t wait to see again new pictures from you!

Cheers
Lluis

> El 4 abr 2018, a les 0:14, Ted Grant via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> 
> Howdy CREW!
> It never fails when the topics get off on all the techie stuff and new fangled whiz bang buttons to push! Doo DADAS of weird & crazy electronic names and the knives come out swinging in the breezes at each other!
> Hell all my gear is gone other than an M8, nocti 1.O, 15mm wide , 35mm wide, and a 90mm. Oh yeah and an "elder" CANON with a zoom of some kind and hell I'm having a great time "HAPPY SNAPPING" the elders living in the Palace. Hell I've forgotten most of the settings etc for now my last M8 of the three. And all 3 LEICA SLR's and lenses are long gone.
> And someday if I can ever remember "HOW?" i shall post some of the cool people images I've been fortunate to capture. When not remembering how these cameras should and do work?
> While you guys are biting at each other about all these new so called whiz-bang cameras that only an electronic wizard knows how to make them work? Let alone afford.
> Save yer breath as someday I'll surprise you lads that even though I'm failing I still get lucky and capture a minor cool one like in the olden days! Yer welcome!
> cheers,
> Dr. Ted Grant  O.C.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
> Sent: April-02-18 3:32 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M10 Monochrom oh yes!
> 
> If there are so many factual errors then why not show us one? Show us how the Bayer process really works! Otherwise this is just added to the list of crass personal attacks which have compiled over the years from you. And let's see one of your pictures Ken!
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> -- 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> 
> On 4/2/18, 5:16 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ken Iisaka" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
> 
>    There are so many factual errors. What Mark describes is Sigma Foveon
>    sensors. It has nothing to do with Bayer-layout sensors used by Leica and
>    most other cameras.
> 
>    Just go take pictures.
> 
>    On 1 April 2018 at 03:41, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> It’s the same speed but it can skip having to pass though various filters
>> first in the RGB Bayer process. It's just direct.
>> Makes for a far cleaner final result.
>> As I understand it demosaicing means anything blue in the image has to
>> pass through a red then green grid layer first.
>> Anything green has to pass though just the red gird layer one first.
>> And if it’s a red rose its fairly direct. Should look good.
>> A black and white sensor has none of that. No grids. No layers. Everything
>> direct.
>> Its keeping it simple stupid. I like that.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> 
>> On 3/31/18, 12:14 PM, "LUG on behalf of Paul Roark via LUG"
>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>>    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:59 AM, chris williams via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Leica was able to use some kind of sensor made in Belgium that was
>>> strictly designed for monochromatic images.
>>> 
>>> ...
>> 
>>    Yes, but aside from not having an R, G or B filter over the pixel, the
>>    silicon is still the same speed as that under the filters of the color
>>    sensors.  The monochrome's native speed is higher only because it has
>> no
>>    color filters over the pixels.  I don't think the Leica foundry has
>> found
>>    any breakthrough to increase silicon's native light sensitivity.
>> 
>>    I'm not knocking the monochrome at all.  For street photography or
>> where
>>    you don't need a filter, it's truly faster and a great tool for those
>> types
>>    of photography.
>> 
>>    Paul
>>    www.PaulRoark.com
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