[Leica] B&W developers

[Eddy Willems]

if you work wit rodinal 1+50 it has practical no grain with 135 film on 
24x30 cm
but if your exposure is not correct you get a huge grain

the reason for me to chose rodinal is that if your production is low you 
can use the bottle to the end without problem and results are consistent

if you use ID-11 or D76 the solution change in time and the results are 
not consistent,
to have consistence with these developers I kept the developer in small 
bottles just enough for the dilution
250cc or 100 cc bottles

Op 15/06/17 om 09:17 schreef Mark Rabiner:
> Don as you know I’m with you on the Xtol 1:3 it was my developer of choice too but an impressive article was written on Rodinal 1:25 stating the results were indistinguishable from D76 1:1 making for a hugely cost not effective situation. It would cost a fortune to pour that much of it in there. You’re the first person I ever knew to tried it and lived.
> Most felt maybe try it at an unpublished compromise 1:75 to tame the grain ever so much but then went back to 1:100 with all the good big boys (and girls). Even 1:50 got people scratching their fingers at you and your prints... Few people who tried it liked it not at full dilution.
> 1:100 made Rodinal Rodinal just as 1:3 made Xtol Xtol.
> Ansel said it didn’t matter which developer you used just as long as you use it at the right dilution.
> (to the effect)
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> Mark Rabiner Rabiner
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> On 6/14/17, 11:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Don Dory" <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of don.dory at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>      For easy compensating developing that is not insanely sensitive to time and
>      temperature I would highly recommend Xtol dilute 1:3.  Development time is
>      a little long compared to others but that is why if you miss your temp by a
>      degree and are distracted for thirty seconds you will still have great
>      negatives.  Edge detail is good but not Pyro or even some of the lower
>      dilutions of Rodinal but much better than the high dilution Rodinal.
>      
>      All the best.
>      
>      On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>      wrote:
>      
>      > Thanks everyone. It is quite clear that nothing has changed since the last
>      > time I processed b&w film those many years ago.
>      >
>      > Gerry
>      >
>      > Gerry Walden LRPS
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>      > > On 14 Jun 2017, at 15:00, George Lottermoser <george.imagist at icloud.com>
>      > wrote:
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>      > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> wrote:
>      > >>
>      > >> I don’t want to start and wars here, and I know this is a minefield in
>      > which I will get a thousand and one answers, but is there any consensus of
>      > opinion these days on a one-shot b&w developer?
>      > >>
>      > >> Insanely I am thinking of doing my own processing of film again.
>      > >
>      > > If you’ve never played with Pyro… you owe it to yourself to do so.
>      > > A true difference in "edge."
>      > >
>      > > fond regards,
>      > >
>      > > George
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