[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: B&W developers

[Bill Pearce]

An excellent alternative, Paul, but for me, the added sharpness of Rodinol 
outweighed the grain, which was not basketball sized clumps, but very very 
fine tight grain. I find grain one of the special things about film that 
digital lacks, and which digital simulations fail to provide. Microdol is a 
good developer, but for me goes  only halfway.

If grain is a problem, I usually stuck with D-76.

I need to shoot more film. If only I had a suitable scanner.

----Original Message----- 
From: Paul Roark
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:03 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: B&W developers

We all probably had our favorite "soups."  I found Rodinal's grain too
much.  If you like a one-shot and less grain, try Microdol-X 1:3.

FWIW

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 5:14 AM, Christopher Crawford <
chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:

> Dan
>
> Yes, Rodinal is actually available now in a couple different formulations.
>
> AGFA changed Ordinal’s formulation a few times over the more than 100
> years they made it. The final version of it is available as Adox Rodinal.
>
> http://www.freestylephoto.biz/12054-Adox-Rodinal-Film-Developer-500-ml
>
> Adox also makes Adox Adolux R09, which is the pre-WWII formulation.
>
> When my last bottle of the modern Ordinal formal ran out, I bought a
> bottle of the pre-war formula to try. Didn’t see any difference in my
> photos, but I haven’t developed many films with it yet.
>
> In addition to these, there are several other companies, including Rollei
> and Foma, marketing “Rodinal” type developers.
>
> --
> Chris Crawford
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> http://www.freestylephoto.biz/12055-Adox-Adolux-APH-09-500-ml
>
> On 6/14/17, 7:53 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong"
> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Is Rodinal still around?
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 14 Jun 2017, at 6:36 PM, Christopher Crawford
> >><chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I treat ALL developers as one-shot. You get the most consistent results
> >> always using fresh developer, and developers are so cheap that trying 
> >> to
> >> save money by reusing is silly.
> >>
> >> I keep four developers in stock at all times, and choose depending on
> >>the
> >> film and look I want. Rodinal, D-76, Tmax Developer, and PMK.
> >>
> >> When asked by a newbie to recommend one developer, I always say this:
> >> D-76, diluted 1+1 is probably the best all around developer. Its easy 
> >> to
> >> use, relatively inexpensive, and gives good results on damn near every
> >> film made.
> >>
> >> If the person says: ³I don¹t want to deal with mixing powdered
> >>chemicals!²
> >> I then recommend either Kodak Tmax Developer or Ilford DDX. I like them
> >> because they give good results on most films and are easy to mix (no
> >>need
> >> to accurately measure a few tiny ML of stock solution the way you do
> >>with
> >> highly dilute developers like Rodinal or HC-110). The standard dilution
> >> for both these developers is 1+4.
> >>
> >> I recommend diluting 1+7. The 1+4 times for most films are pretty short
> >> (5-6 minutes), and I like longer times to avoid uneven developing (with
> >> any developer not just these two), and Tmax and DDX are relatively
> >> expensive. The higher dilution saves money if that¹s an issue. To get
> >>1+7
> >> developing times, multiply the times the manufacturers give for the 1+4
> >> dilution by 1.5x. (so if the 1+4 developing time is 6 minutes, give 9
> >> minutes with the 1+7 dilution). This formula has worked for every film 
> >> I
> >> have tried.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Crawford
> >> Fine Art Photography
> >> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> >> 260-437-8990
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/14/17, 6:05 AM, "LUG on behalf of Gerry Walden"
> >> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> >> gwpics at me.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don¹t want to start and wars here, and I know this is a minefield in
> >>> which I will get a thousand and one answers, but is there any 
> >>> consensus
> >>> of opinion these days on a one-shot b&w developer?
> >>>
> >>> Insanely I am thinking of doing my own processing of film again.
> >>>
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>> www.gwpics.com
> >>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
> >>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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