[Leica] Film Lab

[Robert Adler]

Ahh Mark, you missed Dan's point. Shooting/developing analogue brings back
memories. I agree with much of what you post, but it is irrelevant to
anything Dan said...
But that's ok..


Bob Adler
www.robertadlerphotography.com
*"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> I’ve seen this a lot on the internet and it’s not true or don’t agree with
> it… it’s not true. But it’s really out there being passed around big time
> and achieving some unfortunate credulity as that’s how information spreds
> now. The better virus wins. And you never know which Meme will fly and
> which will die.
> And that’s this backing up to analog as if chemistry based stuff is more
> archival than digital. Or just thinking you are covered if you have a film
> or paper copy of something.
> When we all first heard about this new digital thing coming out the basic
> idea behind the whole thing was the advantage of digital is its digital.
> You make a copy of the thing and the it’s a clone not a copy. It’s the
> same only it exists in a different space.  For photography that’s
> revolutionary. Because in the past when make a copy of a negative or of a
> print and hold them side by side and they are no way identical. The “copy”
> of the thing in most cases is a sad joke.  So, you try to avoid copies. You
> cover yourself as you’re shooting. You go “click” a bunch of times not just
> once or twice. The best copy or backup is another origional.
> More to the point is the reality that the minute your film is dry or your
> print is dry it starts decomposing; leaking gasses, fading, and staining,
> changing color. Film and prints exist in the organic carbon based world
> just like people and trees. Film is made from dead bunnies (the gelatin).
> Prints are made from that and cotton and wood. Just like people they are
> dying the minute they are born. Returning to the earth from whence they
> came…
> So your film based print and the film itself is not the same image as
> every day goes by. Every day in every way your print is worser and worser.
> Film too. Not as much.
> This is a main advantage not disadvantage of digital. It’s a plus check
> not a minus. You could claim to hate the “digital look” but go with it
> anyway because it lasts forever. Its digital.  Other than the small
> possibility of an isolated file getting corrupted when you go to your
> digital file to Photoshop it again to print it or put it up on the internet
> again a decade or so later you’re NOT dealing with a faded different
> version of the thing. In digital if you can get that single file open it’s
> the same file you dealt the first-time decades going by.  Not one 100000th
> of a percent different.
> And if that file doesn’t open you grab another older backup hard disk and
> it will.
> In the past decade, my digital body of work is on hard disks and right
> here near me. My chemical body of work is in a storage cubicle with fumes
> coming out of each and every print and neg and slide.  I’ve not seen it in
> a few days I hope to soon and I don’t pass out from the gasses as I open
> the door.
> By the way if one print or roll of film is under fixed or under washed it
> gives off a lot more and nastier gases than the stuff which was properly
> fixed and washed sitting near it or in the same closet. So, the properly
> processed stuff is probably fading at an accelerated rate too.
> The chemical analog workflow is messy. The advantages are hard to find.
> And if there are any advantages to film archivalness is not one of them.
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> On 6/7/17, 4:14 AM, "LUG on behalf of Dan Khong" <lug-bounces+mark=
> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     I just souped a roll of Tri-X and waiting to send it to the pro-lab to
> have
>     it scanned into digital. After that, I have the options of two work
>     processes - digital and analog. And my negatives will serve as my
> archival
>     backup.
>
>     All said, 90% of my B&W pics (100% of color) are now taken on digital,
> but
>     it's the last bit that is analog that gives me memories that spans
> back 50
>     years when film was there in the most impressionable years of my life.
>     Those were the days of Nam and protest songs, and growing up into
>     adulthood.
>
>     Dan K.
>
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