[Leica] Less you scoff at R lenses compared to 21st Century M lenses.........

[Stephen Barbour]

Yup!

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> On Jul 8, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Frank,
> I always have a great enjoyable time reading the "LENS TESTING MAIL":-)
> explaining what many of you do and go through with LEICA GLASS?  :-)
> When I went all "LEICA GEAR" many many years ago it never occurred to me to
> test or compare to others.
> My tests were always KISS! Click lens on camera and get on with the
> assignment I had flown 4000 miles to shoot? 
> I just figured if I bought the best, LEICA? I need not be wasting time
> testing. But then I rarely read camera manuals? OOPS! BAD!
> However, film cameras were all pretty well the same? YEA RIGHT? :-) :-(
> My today failures, with all this digital camera gear and computers?
> I'm a total wreck making adjustments.
> My operation routine with the computer first before I make "my adjustments?"
> Press "auto colour?" if it makes a slight change and my simple minded
> response is?... "OH THAT LOOKS COOL!" I leave it and get on with contrast
> etc. If they look "cool colour or touch of contrast etc.?" I LEAVE THEM BE.
> "one click!" WHY? Well why screw around wasting time twiddling knobs and
> pressing buttons. When if you shot it right in the first place and you felt
> the auto-setting made it look like perfect? Why tweak an hour or so screwing
> around supposedly making it look better.
> AFTER ALL!??
> ISN'T THE "CONTENT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR IMAGE?"  ;-)
> Ok,  :-) So I'm pulling the "crew's" imaginations a bit as I realize and
> have done so on occasions myself "twiddled" a colour slightly richer when I
> thought it made the photo look?  "REAL COOL!" :-) 
> But for me when you lads get into all the testing's you do with whatever?
> Yes I do read them for my benefit just in case? Generally I don't do many of
> the suggestions. However? I very much enjoy reading them.  :-)
> cheers,
> Dr. Ted  O.C.   
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Frank Filippone
> Sent: July-07-17 3:37 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Less you scoff at R lenses compared to 21st Century M
> lenses.........
> 
> My 45 year old cypress fence is NOT interesting.  It has interesting knots
> that I use both for focusing and for evaluation of the lens.
> 
> The images are WAYYYYYYYY too boring.  Proper lens tests, even simplified
> ones as I do, are best left to conclusions.  Take them with a grain of salt,
> if you prefer.
> 
> I wills see what I can do about the Noctilux vs 7Artisans actual picture
> taking results.  In those tests, it is not sharpness, but rather fingerprint
> that counts.... and might actually be interesting...
> Imagine taking the $5000 out of your bag and replacing it with $369......
> and pocketing the difference.....  THAT is interesting....
> 
> The Noctilux never was a sharpness related lens.  It is faster by 1 stop
> than the ultimate lens for the M, the 50 ASPH Lux.  ( 2 stops faster than
> the ASPH Summicron, that I do not own.) .  
> It has wonderful glow.  That is what makes it special.  Let's see if the
> cheapie lens can approximate that look.....
> 
> Frank Filippone
> 
> Red735i at verizon.net
> 
> It would be interesting to see the images though.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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