[Leica] Leica lenses on Fuji X Pro 1 Vs Sony A7

Thu Jan 26 15:49:39 PST 2017

Waiting for a few lens adaptors for my new Sony A7ii and then I'll give it a 
go.

Douglas

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Filippone" <red735i at verizon.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica lenses on Fuji X Pro 1 Vs Sony A7

> You are looking directly at the image sensor output.  If focus shifting (
> the change of focus plane with change of aperture) is a consideration, 
> then
> check your focus again AFTER you set taking aperture and make final SMALL
> adjustments.
> There are only a few lenses that focus shifting is a consideration..... 
> the
> 35 Lux FLE ( first version ) is one of them. Other lenses were not 
> designed
> to have this problem and therefore do not worry using them.... ( 50 LUX
> ASPH)
>
> I should mention that even with a Digi-Leica camera body, focus shifting 
> is
> an issue.  It is inherent in the specific lens design.  There is no camera
> body based fix possible.  With a EVF,  you have the ability to correct
> it....
> Using more DOF ( smaller aperture) will help mask this error source.
> Your other choice is to not use focus shifting lenses.....  or suffer 
> trying
> to get really sharp focus on your subject by focusing initially at 
> shooting
> aperture, which will be frustrating, especially at F32 ( for example).
>
> At F1.0 a Nocti is easy to set at precise focus using my technique. The
> correct focus plane POPS into focus.  Trying this at smaller aperture, the
> focus plane can be found, but it is not as obvious nor does it POP into
> focus.
> This is all a lot of verbiage.  If you try it with a real camera and lens,
> you will find how easy and accurately it works.
>
> This method is slooooooow.  It is however, more accurate than the Digi-M 
> you
> might be using, or your AF Nikon, Canon or Leica SL  body in AF or MF 
> mode.
>
> AND when your M9 camera breaks on day 8 of your 42 day trip to Canada, it 
> is
> a photographic life saver.
>
> Do you want to use it on every shot you ever take in the future? 
> Including
> your 3 year old grandkids who move like whirlwinds?  Probably not the 
> right
> tool.
>
> Frank Filippone
>
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
>>Behalf
> Of RicCarter
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:43 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica lenses on Fuji X Pro 1 Vs Sony A7
>
> no problems with focus shifting?
>
> ric
>
>
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:33 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Same advice for the Fuji X Pro 1 or the Sony A7
>>
>> Turn OFF the focus peaking.  You will need to hit the magnified image
>> button a few times to get the x10 enlarged image.  Focus WITHOUT
>> touching the shutter button ( which, when touched, shuts OFF the enlarged
> image).
>> Focus like you were using a ground glass.... and WIDE OPEN>>>>>  If
>> you try to focus with the lens set for F32 you will have difficulty
>> because there is so much DOF. ( If you have a Noctilux, try that lens
>> first.....it will give you confidence....)
>>
>> Methodology.....
>> Open lens to Max Aperture ( F1.0, for instance)  ( Do NOT cheat on
>> this
>> step....!)
>> Start focus regimen... enlarge the VF image by pressing appropriate
>> button..... look in EVF and focus as if it were a ground glass... when
>> it is sharp it is in focus....
>> Set Lens aperture to the value you want... say, F11  ( you will need
>> to move camera away from your face to perform this action....) Re
>> establish composition Push shutter button....
>> Done.
>>
>> Sounds long and involved, but it works.... and your focusing accuracy
>> will be incredible...  Did this in Canada with great results.... (
>> When my M9 died, suddenly... and the Fuji XE-1 was my backup camera)
>>
>> It is not for action pictures,,, the procedure is long, requires a lot
>> of moving the camera away from your face, and is otherwise
>> sub-optimal.... But it works brilliantly for fixed subjects,,,,)
>>
>> Use your Native lenses when you do not want the ultimate in
> resolution.....
>> or want/need AF/fast working....
>>
>> Trying to focus at F32 and with focus peaking is, for me, a terrible
>> solution.....
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> Frank Filippone
>>
>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bernard Quinn
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:53 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: [Leica] Leica lenses on Fuji X Pro 1 Vs Sony A7
>>
>>
>> Upgraded the software on my Fuji X Pro 1, got a Fuji brand M adapter
>> and had a go at it. I can focus it, but even with the MF focus peaking
>> turned on and with using the enlarged focus are feature focusing was not
> that easy for me.
>> Best I can describe it is that you turn the focus ring until the image
>> in the viewfinder is as pixelated as possible.
>>
>> I also have a Sony A7 and the kit zoom lens which comes with. When you
>> are using the A7 with an  mount lens is it any easier to focus than the X
> Pro 1?
>>
>> Any hints or suggestions to make manual focusing on the X Pro 1 more
>> agreeable. Yeah, I thought of that. I am retired and an M10 will get
>> me divorced and dead, and probably not it that order.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Barney
>>
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