[Leica] Leica M10

[Steve Barbour]

On Jan 25, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Back to the original topic... the M10...
> There are some things that have not changed the will keep me from even
> wanting the M10:
> 1.  Exposures longer than 2s REQUIRE double the time to process a dark
> frame for noise reduction... You can't disable it...
> 2.  There is still that quirky shutter lag using the live view (with LCD
> back or Visoflex EVF) (albeit shorter per Leica representations, but stated
> as "slight" in the manual. With electronic first shutter curtain a
> "standard" these days, the fact that this has not been implemented is
> really disappointing.
>     a. Use of live view causes double the shutter usage (shutter count
> doubles)
>     b. This causes the camera to expose at what I call the indecisive
> moment... Shutter lag probably sets a new Guinness record of second place:
> the the M240 has greater lag.
> 3.   The amount of shutter time available in B mode is ISO dependent. If
> like the M240, native ISO shutter open time is 120seconds. Double the
> native ISO and the shutter open time is reduced by 1/2 (60s), and on down
> until there is an 8second shutter open time in B mode.
> 
> So these are key items that, though perhaps improved slightly with the M10
> over the M240, that continue to limit the options available to
> photographers.
> 
> Waiting for the M11 I guess…


please forward this to Leica.


steve





> Bob

> 
> 
> Bob Adler
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
> 
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:15 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
> 
>> If you have no ticket then there is no chance of winning the lottery,
>> buying a single ticket gives you a greater chance....
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> Forgive me, Aram, for I am no mathematician, but I cannot understand how
>> your friend can justify "very slightly". If I buy a ticket, the odds are 1
>> in 1 gazillion, which must (mathematically) be _infinitely_ better than
>> zero in 1 gazillion.
>> 
>> What I have misunderstood?
>> 
>> Piers
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+piers.hemy=gmail.com at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Aram
>> Sent: 24 January 2017 16:02
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M10
>> 
>> You know, Gerry, as a math teacher friend of mine says, your odds of
>> winning the lottery increase very slightly if you actually buy a ticket.
>> 
>> 
>> Aram
>> 
>> Aram Langhans
>> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
>> & Unemployed photographer
>> 
>> "The Human Genome Project has proved Darwin more right than Darwin himself
>> would ever have dared dream." James D. Watson
>> 
>> On 1/20/2017 10:42 PM, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>> My initial comment was a bit tongue in cheek, but it seems to have
>> started
>> something. In previous models since the M9 I have felt that they are
>> reiterations of the basic concept of a digital full-frame Leica, but I feel
>> this one has gone a step further for some reason.
>>> 
>>> Let me make it clear there is no way that I will be buying one unless I
>> win the lottery, which is pretty unlikely as I never buy a ticket.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Jan 2017, at 01:46, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I appreciate your response.... I was ( am?) looking for a reason to like
>> it for myself....
>>>> 
>>>> Everyone is a unique person, with his/her own needs, and
>> preferences.....
>>>> And My M9 IS getting old.... and at some point will need to be
>> replaced...
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe, for me, putting out $6500 for a camera is not in the cards...
>> unless the M9 dies....
>>>> But I do like to keep abreast of what is out there, and why others
>> choose.....   Your inputs I find invaluable research info from someone I
>> respect.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> 
>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Frank - I like the fact there is no video, a larger eyepiece and much
>> better iso.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> What feature or features convinced you that THIS was the new camera
>> for
>> you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just watched a couple of short videos on YouTube about the new
>> M10, and I want one. For the first time I have considered it is worth
>> moving
>> from my M9. Now all I have to do is sell my body and as my daughter put it
>> once "as long as you sell it by weight you will be OK Dad". Children can be
>> so rude!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information