[Leica] The "problem" with the M9

Mon Jan 2 10:29:12 PST 2017

Steve,

I do not dislike the red jacket, if the jacket has been dark, maybe I didn’t hesitated to do it in B&W. Personally I don’t like very much the B&W/Color transformations, I’ve did it just one time, if someone want to play… I have no inconvenient at all….

Lluis

> El 2 gen 2017, a les 18:49, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> va escriure:
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>> On Jan 2, 2017, at 9:42 AM, lluisripollphotography <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thank you for all your comments, I agree with Gerry too and I have to add that after that I have the Monochrom, when I take the M9 it is generally because I want to do color, I remember when I’ve saw this Lady smoking with her red jacket this made a nice color composition and as Steve has pointed the cigarette was a important element to consider. But as you know, I can’t resist the B&W and once I have converted it I’ve liked it too, but on this case color would be my choice.
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> the color of the burning cigarette is so distinct and lifelike, otherwise the dress adds nothing, and is actually counterproductive, ideally I would prefer (if I could do it, remove all color except that of the cigarette, someone else -if Lluis says it’s ok).
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> steve
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>> I will take a look again following the Bob’s comments, thank you Bob!
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>> I also agree Jayanand, on that day I was visualizing in color but I have converted some pictures because the tinct across the image was awful 
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>> Cheers
>> Lluis
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>>> El 2 gen 2017, a les 18:08, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure:
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>>> Thank you Tina, John and Steve.
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 17:07, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> +1!
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
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>>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 12:04 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
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>>>>> You know the obvious answer Gerry........ I usually leave the house with a
>>>>> Monochrom as well as my M(240) ;-)  I agree with what you say and rarely
>>>>> take the same shot with both cameras as each have their strengths.
>>>>> 
>>>>> john
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am sorry to come back on this, but I believe that the photographer
>>>>> should make a decision by pre-visualisation of how the final image should
>>>>> look. Although this may may be a split-second decision based on intuition
>>>>> and experience that decision is important. If you shoot in b&w you shoot
>>>>> for the composition of light and dark, highlights and shadows whereas if
>>>>> you shoot in colour you shoot for the interplay of the colours of the image
>>>>> and the way the balance together. This is a decision that cannot be
>>>>> realistically made afterwards as the two images/decisions are different. If
>>>>> you make the dcision afterwards it will never be as good as the
>>>>> pre-visualisation that should have been done before.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 13:46, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ever since I switched to digital I have had problems with some images
>>>>> deciding whether it is a ‘colour’ image or a ‘mono’ image. It was easier in
>>>>> my opinion when you carried two cameras, and you made the decision at the
>>>>> point of pressing the button, and then you had decided. It was a decision
>>>>> made at that moment, in that mood, at (to quote HC-B) the point when the
>>>>> heart, the eye and the mind come together. There is no better time to
>>>>> decide because never again will those three factors coincide. I am afraid
>>>>> that the decision on which of these two images is purely yours to make
>>>>> because neither is better or worse than the other.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wish you luck with your decision,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2 Jan 2017, at 01:51, lluisripollphotography <
>>>>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Day I went to shoot “Giving Smiles” I’ve carried the M9, it poses
>>>>> sometimes a problem to decide if color or B&W….
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evening in La Rambla
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Leica M9, Summilux 75 wide open
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/La+Rambla/
>>>>> 20161221_L1013236+1.jpg.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/La+Rambla/
>>>>> 20161221_L1013236.jpg.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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