[Leica] DXO Mark Leica M10 Score

Sun Dec 17 15:08:15 PST 2017

Well said Dr.!
The right camera for that photographer. Whether it's one camera or 4, it
doesn't matter.
For you: the light M8 and a few lenses: perfect! (though that Nocti is no
lightweight!)
For me (I'm not 100 years old yet-sure hope to be some day if I have all my
marbles like you!), so I really only have 2 "systems. A Leica for 35mm and
an Alpa for 4x5ish (like your speed graphic, only too heavy to carry! back
of car shooting, within about 700 meters).
I do have a Sony body for my star pictures, but that's just a body, no Sony
lenses. I use the 21mm f/3.4 (read: tiny) on it and that's it.

Now if I could only change M lenses as fast as you; but you have a few
years more practice than I ;-) Any advice???

All the best,
Bob

Bob Adler
www.robertadlerphotography.com
*"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> Well I dabbled with everything from SPEED GRAPHIC's to M8 and all kinds of
> LEICA's between when I became a news photog for the "Ottawa Citizen" 17
> Sept
> 1951. My first picture published and on the front page.
> These days? The remnants of my years and years of always working with 3
> LEICA MOTOR-SLR's off shoulders and 3 M bodies hanging off my neck onto
> chest. Not on every assignment, but most of the documentary assignments,
> Hell of a sight! :-)
> Today? I have only one M8! :-( to cover my "so called self assignment?
> "LIFE
> in the PALACE!" :-)
> The activities of near 200 senior citizens LIVING IN ''PALACE!" My
> definition just for the fun of it! :-) No pressure, no wire-headed
> "photo-editor" to deal with but me! One, M8, Noctilux f1.0 50mm. 35.mm
> ,90mm
> and it's fun time. :-) And I've learned how to change lenses very very
> quickly! :-)
> I think I should've kept one of my Motor LEICA SLR's. Actually no reason as
> I said these are all folks 75 yrs. to 100 yrs! Trust me "NOBODY MOVES VERY
> FAST." Besides I can change lenses faster than most can move? :-)
> cheers,
> ted
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Robert Adler
> Sent: December-16-17 1:38 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] DXO Mark Leica M10 Score
>
> Cameras have different uses. For me the M's are very simple, have the
> ability to see outside the frame, and give a unique look with the Leica
> glass. I can see the difference in the Leica sensor that is "tuned" to the
> glass. IMO it's a subtle but significant difference. I also have a Sony Ar7
> ii with the sensor glass modified to give better results for Leica WA
> lenses. For portable, landscape photography and Milky Way landscape (high
> ISO ability), it is a top performer. But for "quick" shooting and simple
> interface, the M's can't be beat. Nikons are also great performers, but
> with the Sony I can use all my L glass.
> Just my opinion. As Tina says, it's the results (and the photographer and
> their preferences) that count. Not a lab test...
> Best,
> Bob
>
>
> Bob Adler
> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> *"Capturing Light One Frame At A Time"*
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:28 AM, CJ andS <csaganich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Compatible with every Leica lens ever made?  It that correct?  Good info
> > for the beloved DR user.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 10:12 PM Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > DXO only gives the Sony sensor, and all the cameras using them, such
> high
> > > marks - even Canon and Fuji fare badly. This is the page to see:
> > >
> > > https://www.dxomark.com/category/camera-reviews/
> > >
> > > FWIW, I use a Nikon D500 very happily for a certain purpose, and it is
> > > overall at a lower level than the Leica M10 - but it has other
> advantages
> > > that more than compensate. Do not forget that DXO measures only one of
> > the
> > > parameters of a camera - sensor performance.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Jayanand
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > DXO has never liked Leica.  They always give Leica the worst scores
> > > without
> > > > ever actually taking photos with the cameras.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/03/10/dxo-tests-the-m9me-
> > > > sensor-with-worst-full-frame-results-ever/
> > > >
> > > > I test cameras by taking photos.  DXO does not.
> > > >
> > > > Tina
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Frank <
> > > frank at f3documentaryphotography.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Presented without comment.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://leicarumors.com/2017/12/15/dxomark-published-their-
> > > > > leica-m10-test-results.aspx/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Frank F. Farmer
> > > > > Jackson, Mississippi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
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