[Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson

Sun Aug 20 09:40:31 PDT 2017

Merci Philippe,

Pour moi netteté et piqué  seraient à la limite des conceptes similaires….

Ça va mon ami, je respose mais maintenat je vais descendre à La Rambla et prendre quelque photo.

Amitiés
Lluis

> El 20 ag 2017, a les 18:37, Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> va escriure:
> 
> Lluis,
> 
> Sharpness as it is used in HCB’s quote in English is a very misleading translation of the French word netteté. 
> The original sentence is about « netteté », not about « piqué » …
> 
> Traduttore, traditore 
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traduttore,_traditore
> 
> Repose toi bien.
> 
> Amities
> Phuzzillogix 1er, roi du flou, du béret, et de la baguette
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 20 août 2017 à 18:13, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi Ted,
>> 
>> I always read your comments, I’e learned a lot, as always I find all of them very interesting and clever and in my opinion this one is one of the most interesting, no for your mention to me that I appreciate very much, but for the question (s) it content. Can we consider the Art and the Beauty with universal rules/Laws? No, of course, some years ago I’ve read a very interesting book about the historical period of “La Encyclopedie” / “La Illustraion” and how a lot of wise men has intended stablish the standards and the reasons of the beauty, but fortunately the Art has or shall has no rules, as you know, one of my favorite sentences is from HCB “Sharpnes is a bourgeois concept”. Longtime ago I’ve visited an exhibiton of J.J. Henri Lartigue, really impressive to see what he has do with the early technology. Maybe we the people we think that photography reproduces the reality but as Susan Sontag says, it shows our reality. Behind the great names of the past there many others was “eclipsed” by the great stars of the moment.
>> 
>> At this moment your interrogative sign still need a response that maybe don’t exist or there exist too many…. Diversity is our richness!
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 20 ag 2017, a les 1:05, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> W. Eugene Smith: ‘I Didn’t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them?’
>>> =================================
>>> Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> Probably one of the smartest things Eugene Smith ever said or made us aware of!
>>> Yes another shooter may sometimes point out a "photo correction" we may have missed regarding one of our own photos.
>>> However? It is our own eyes, gut feelings, technical wisdom and several other items that guides each and every one of us in capturing a "beauty we love with great passion!"
>>> Oh of course we're not always right! Nobody has ever been that good! Including Eugene Smith and many of his era that today have some folks bowing before them as "THE GREATS OF THE GREATEST!"
>>> Oh they were good for their day and equipment, no question! BUT TODAY== 2017? 
>>> You betcha! Right here amongst the LUG we have some extremely fine shooters I'd put up against those "old timers" under the conditions of today's society" compared to the '20's-'30s-'40'etc! 
>>> The bottom line with these "wunderkin-shooter's of old" ===  SOCIETY OF TO DAY? would eat them alive?" Or punch their brains out!
>>> One lugger right here about to have a magnificent exhibition in Chicago, our very own "INVISABLE LLUIS!" of Barcelona! :-)
>>> If we could only bring Cartier Bresson and a couple of other "Hot Shot Shooters of the past?" back for Lluis exhibition it would be most interesting to hear their comments?  :-) 
>>> That's not going to happen, "unfortunately!"
>>> I still believe we have excellent photogs of all calibre's, in quality today in many situations far superior to those of the long gone past.
>>> For what all that's worth? Maybe nothing? So I shall return to my quite resting of a Saturday afternoon! Unfortunately! :-(
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. Ted Grant O. C. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll
>>> Sent: August-19-17 2:12 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Henri Cartier-Bresson
>>> 
>>> Gerry,
>>> 
>>> W. Eugene Smith: ‘I Didn’t write the Rules, Why should I Follow Them?’
>>> 
>>> Cheers my friend!
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 19 ag 2017, a les 13:37, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Always shoot the image and forget the rules. If it looks right then it is right DESPITE the rules.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Aug 2017, at 11:13, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Jayanand, It is interesting, but it puts to me a question, which one is the priority?
>>>>> 
>>>>> BE CREATIVE and put the rules 
>>>>> 
>>>>> or
>>>>> 
>>>>> PUT THE RULES and try creativity
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cartier-Bresson was basically instictive, but maybe one day someone will put these grids on the digital screens and it will be amazing see the people composing through it…. :-) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 18 ag 2017, a les 4:11, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those interested:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.diyphotography.net/breaking-masterful-composition-henri-cartier-bressons-photos/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>> 
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