[Leica] Fwd: Re: Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or SHOULD NOT use Leica......
Richard Man
richard at richardmanphoto.com
Fri Oct 7 01:11:24 PDT 2016
Knock on wood, my M9 is still hanging tough, after almost 37000 exposures.
I am hoping that it won't develop the sensor crap. Can't afford to not to
have it for 2 months+!
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 12:48 AM, photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> Indeed. I was planning to buy a second-hand M9 or M240 at some point, but
> with
> stories like this, I am put off buying any modern Leica body. The M2 I have
> seems reliable enough ;-)
>
> It is sad to see that Leica has lost its way with quality control,
> apparently.
> For the record, I started taking photography seriously in 1985 and bought
> my
> first digital camera in 2004. During those years I have owned equipment
> from
> Pentax, Ricoh, Fuji, Canon, Leica, Panasonic, Hasselblad, Mamiya, Rollei.
> The
> only brand that I have had to send for repair is Leica. This does not mean
> that
> I do not enjoy shooting with Leica--I do--just as I enjoyed driving the
> BMW I
> had in Belgium in the 1990s even though it left me stranded at the side of
> the
> road more often than any other car I have owned.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nathan
>
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: Philippe <photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com>
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: 07 October 2016 at 09:27
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or
> SHOULD
> > NOT use Leica......
> >
> > All of which makes me wonder about the economic model of the firm -
> > charging premium prices for unreliable gear that you then repair for free
> > makes little sense to me.
> > It gets even worse for the user who suffers long delays and has to
> pay for
> > it all.
> > I understand Frank's rant as a result.
> >
> > Amities
> > Philippe
> >
> > Le 7 oct. 2016 à 09:09, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> a écrit :
> >
> > > Trying to work out where your hold-up is, Solms/Wetzlar have sent
> my kit
> > > back within a day or so of completion. In the last 12 months, three
> > > sensors (M9, original Monochrom and S2-P, plus currently on my
> third S
> > > AF failure), all carried out free including shipping.....
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > John.. are you REALLY willing to pull my chain when I am basically
> > > exploding over this issue?????
> > >
> > > Really????????????
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > > Red735i at verizon.net
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org]
> On
> > > Behalf Of John McMaster
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 1:58 PM
> > > To: Leica Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or
> SHOULD
> > > NOT use Leica......
> > >
> > > Leica Wetzlar or NJ? I had my M9 sensor replaced on an eight week
> > > turnaround door to door....
> > >
> > > john
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Frank Filippone
> > > Sent: Thursday, 6 October 2016 8:57 p.m.
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> > > Subject: [Leica] Why Pros in general and us mateurs do NOT or
> SHOULD NOT
> > > use Leica......
> > >
> > > My M9 is STILL at Leica….
> > >
> > > 2 weeks ago Tuesday I was told it would ship that day.
> > >
> > > Waited a week, checked, and they were going to ship it THAT day
> > >
> > > Checked yesterday, it will ship that day
> > >
> > > Today, it is still at Leica and will ship today……
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is like the old joke… Free Beer.. Manana
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Today’s story is that I will get tracker number this afternoon…..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I made 4 calls today to reach someone.. the previous “record” was
> 10
> > > calls….
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And you wonder why only (who cares if it is an exaggeration….!)
> rich
> > > amateurs can afford Leica??????? Pros can not be bothered with the
> > > hassle…..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is not a matter of not having a camera to shoot with ( the A7
> and the
> > > MM can do the job)
> > >
> > > It is MY camera, and I want it back…..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As an amateur, I am entitled to absolutely NO special service….. no
> > > rush, no nada.
> > >
> > > The camera was sent to Leica on July 8. In case you are going to
> > > calculate, that is 3 months.
> > >
> > > It has been sitting on the shelf at Leica, repaired, for at least a
> > > week, probably 2 weeks….
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The problem was that the glass cover plate over the sensor fell
> off…
> > > loose…. On the 8th day of a 42 day vacation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please. No comments on how you got your Leica back in 4 seconds,
> all
> > > fixed, from a basket case of screws nuts and bolts…..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My previous experience was an M6 sent on for repair, and when it
> got
> > > back, the body case was so badly bent that a film cassette would
> not
> > > fit…
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are these guys really serious about getting market share?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you NEED to have your camera functional, maybe a Nikon or Canon
> > > really is a better choice….
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rant off.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > >
> > > Red735i at verizon.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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