[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up

Thu Nov 10 13:18:58 PST 2016

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Of course I earn my living doing photography. The work I post here is not
my commercial work. Its not very interesting, but it pays the bills. I
don’t expect anyone here to buy my prints, but when you come on here
telling me what I SHOULD be photographing, then you need to pay me for
working for you. Since you aren’t hiring me, I will continue to shoot and
post what I want and if you don’t like it that’s just too damned bad.

-- 
Chris Crawford
Fine Art Photography
Fort Wayne, Indiana
260-437-8990

http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
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On 11/10/16, 3:50 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe Amard"
<lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote:

>I don't know about the details Chris, but you told me/us you worked for
>the
>money.
>
>For me that's a good reason to shoot; the keyword is survival.
>
>Yet, is it a good reason to share your commercial art on the lug and other
>lists?
>
>How many of us luggers, Oly users and others have bought your prints?
>
>The LUG and the Oly list are not market squares, they're for friendship,
>openness and photography or vice-versa.
>
>Locked in your own world, how many times have you congratulated any of the
>other posters?
>
>What do you share with them, us, me? Bucks?
>
>I'm sorry this appalling episode in your history takes us all so much way
>downwards, really sorry.
>
>Philippe
>
>
>
>2016-11-10 21:25 GMT+01:00 Christopher Crawford <
>chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>:
>
>> Steve’s attacking me because he thinks that I am posting these photos to
>> support Trump. I’m not. As I have said MULTIPLE times, I am documenting
>> the culture and people of Indiana. Like it or not, Indiana’s people
>> supported Trump. That’s what I documented.
>>
>> Steve’s comment that I need to take ‘good pictures’ is like someone
>>online
>> going out of their way to criticize another poster’s spelling because
>>they
>> didn’t have the courage or the intelligence to criticize the ideas in
>>the
>> post.
>>
>> As I have stated, I will not be bullied by narrow minded people into
>> changing what I photograph. Don’t like my work? Don’t look at it. Its as
>> simple as that.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Crawford
>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-437-8990
>>
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/16, 2:30 PM, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry"
>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>> imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>> >Oh, I now see what Steve B wrote to rile Chris. I've moved it up in
>>this
>> >email to make it easier to see. Steve, it seems a strange place to
>>bury a
>> >fairly inflammatory comment.
>> >
>> >What are you trying to achieve?
>> >
>> >Douglas
>> >
>> >>>>>
>> >> Chris,
>> >>
>> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that
>> >>make
>> >> people think.
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>>>>
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> >To: "LUG list" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:28 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Gee guys it's all over in less than 24 hours!
>> >>> "DO PLEASE TRY AND GET ALONG?" :-)
>> >>> I mean you've had near two years to vent this stuff and here we are
>> >>> voting
>> >>> day and you are at each other's throats like a couple of  wild
>> >>>roosters
>> >>> at a
>> >>> hen party! :-)
>> >>> My suggestion? Not that it means anything in your country. But it's
>> >>>going
>> >>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> "FAR MORE INTERESTING TOMORROW AFTER RESULTS COME OUT!" Actually
>>quite
>> >>> wild
>> >>> I bet? "CLOSE the HATCHES & dive deep!"
>> >>> Be good boys until it's over, Thank you.
>> >>> Now take two aspirins and call me after 10 a.m. tomorrow. Thank you
>> >>>most
>> >>> kindly. :-)
>> >>> Now relax!
>> >>> CHRIS: you go look for signs! :-)
>> >>> SONNY: You go look for flowers in Adrian's garden! :-)
>> >>> Now don't you both feel better? :-) :-)
>> >>> Jeeeessh I hope this avoids a CIVIL WAR? :-)
>> >>> KINDEST REGARDS TO BOTH.
>> >>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. Order of Canada
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>> >>>Behalf
>> >>> Of
>> >>> Christopher Crawford
>> >>> Sent: November-07-16 7:38 PM
>> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
>> >>> Importance: Low
>> >>>
>> >>> Sonny,
>> >>>
>> >>> Tina Manley implied earlier today (post subject: Milestone) that she
>> >>> might
>> >>> leave the country if the election doesn’t turn out as she likes. I
>> >>>didn’t
>> >>> see any of your shrill outrage over that. To be clear, I am not
>>upset
>> >>>by
>> >>> Tina’s post; its a free country and if she wants to leave its her
>> >>>right.
>> >>> It’ll be a great loss to our nation; but its her right to live where
>> >>>she
>> >>> wishes, and her right to voice her opinions.
>> >>>
>> >>> As I said in my last reply to you, I am not going to stop what I am
>> >>> doing.
>> >>> I explained why quite clearly, and I stand by it.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Chris Crawford
>> >>> Fine Art Photography
>> >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> >>> 260-437-8990
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> >>> Become a fan on Facebook
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11/7/16, 10:03 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter"
>> >>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf
>>of
>> >>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> My comment was not about your art.  There are plenty places to
>>voice
>> >>>> your
>> >>>> opinion, and the forum is one such place. Don't embarrass yourself.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> from my iPad
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sonny Carter
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Crawford
>> >>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I¹m not going to stop voicing my opinions.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> That is my job, I am an artist. We make people think and we
>>sometimes
>> >>>>> make
>> >>>>> people uncomfortable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Chris,
>> >>
>> >> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that
>> >>make
>> >> people think.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>> Those of us who work in the medium of photography
>> >>>>> document life; we¹re historians, sociologists, psychologists,
>> >>>>> anthropologists, and artists all wrapped into one.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sometimes the real world is crazy, scary, dangerous, uncivilized,
>>and
>> >>>>> cruel. We cannot put our heads in the sand and refuse to confront
>>our
>> >>>>> world; to do so allows the triumph of evil.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Chris Crawford
>> >>>>> Fine Art Photography
>> >>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> >>>>> 260-437-8990
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> >>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 11/7/16, 8:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter"
>> >>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on
>>behalf
>> >>>>>of
>> >>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I stood up for you when the subject of your images was under fire
>> >>>>>> here.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> However, when you voice your own political opinion, I'll suggest
>>you
>> >>>>>> take
>> >>>>>> it to the forum.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> from my iPad
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sonny Carter
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Crawford
>> >>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This sign pretty much sums up my feelings about the 2016
>> >>>>>>>Presidential
>> >>>>>>> Election. Lock Both Up.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This handmade sign was posted in the middle of West State
>> >>>>>>>Boulevard
>> >>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> western edge of Fort Wayne, Indiana.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?product=2535
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>> >>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>> >>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> >>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> >>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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