[Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

Tue May 24 13:47:12 PDT 2016

That's good advice Sonny, thanks for passing it on! Seems the only sure way to eliminate a possible problem. 
Am finding it hard to understand the purpose of the Leica 'Snapshot Profile mode'. Why use a Leica to shoot only JPEGs?

Bob

      From: Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>
 To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 22:14
 Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

According to Overgaard: 

 "When you have saved no user profiles, the only available choice is the " - " (no profile). If you don't have any specific use for User profiles, I recommend you don't define any." 
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, bob catchpole via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

It's good to know conclusively that in 'Snapshot Profile mode' the camera only shoots JPEGs. Which, for me, is plent reason to avoid ever accidentally using it!
Nathan says "It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several actions, not just pressing a button." I've just checked and sadly that's not the case.

Here's what happened. I created a user profile ('Bob') and photographed for a couple of hours. At some point, when maybe I changed the ISO setting, the camera exited the user profile (since it no longer conformed to the 'Bob' profile settings). At the time I wasn't aware of this, which wasn't a problem since I was aware of the camera settings.

However, later, when I pressed SET I noticed at the bottom where before it said 'Set user profile... Bob' it now said 'Set user profile... -' (blank). I now realised the camera wasn't using the 'Bob' profile. I highlighted that line and pressed SET to have a look at the profiles menu to maybe re-set the Bob' profile.

This was the danger moment! And a real flaw as far as I'm concerned! By default 'Snapshot Profile' is selected at the top of the list. In that moment I decided I didn't want to set a profile and continue as I'd been doing, and just exit the menu. To exit you have to press the shutter button. But if you accidentally press the SET button (so easy to do!) you're in trouble because now you're in the dreaded 'Snapshot Profile mode'.
Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot Profile mode? Unfortunately the answer seems to be 'Yes'.
   Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? I'd love to know, but am not optimistic.

By the way, I think the presentation and explanation of the Snapshot Profile in the M-E manual is appalling bad and unworthy of Leica. I didn't understand what they were on about, which is why I came here for help.
Bob

      From: photo photo <photo at frozenlight.eu>
 To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
 Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 17:10
 Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode

Just out of curiosity, and to demonstrate the usefulness of looking in the
manual, I looked up the M9 manual and there (on p. 103) it is stated that in
snapshot mode, quality is set to JPG Fine.

The instruction manual further explains (p. 141) how to set the snapshot mode.
It seems impossible to do so accidentally since it involves several actions, not
just pressing a button.

Once again, I maintain that reading the manual would have provided the original
poster with the answers he needed.

Nathan

>
>    Op 24 mei 2016 om 16:16 schreef Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com>:
>
>
>    Looks like the snapshot mode is not addressed in the M-E instructions.
>
>    If you don't set any user profiles, then you will not take a chance of
>    entering the snapshot mode. (That's why so few of us have any experience
>    with the mode.)
>
>    I don't have my M9 nearby, but from what I read, it seems you may still
>    have the option to shoot DNG with Snapshot mode.
>
>    Leica M9 brochure: "In snapshot mode, the M9 automatically sets as many
>    settings as possible, thus providing a valuable aid to spontaneous and
>    discreet photography."
>
>
>
>
>
>    On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, bob catchpole via LUG
> <lug at leica-users.org>
>    wrote:
>
>    > Thanks for your comments Philippe. Much appreciated, as I'm new to the
>    > list and to the Leica M-E.
>    > I hoped my questions would be easy for folks on the list. John now says
>    > it's "impossible to give definite answers."
>    > Question 1: In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot
>    > JPEGs?
>    > Yes or no? That's pretty definite. Anyone know?
>    >
>    > Question 2: Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot
>    > Profile mode? Yes or no? Has it happened to anyone on the list?
>    >
>    > Question 3: Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode
>    > can't
>    > be switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled? Yes or no?
>    > Anybody know?
>    > Thanks,Bob
>    >
>    >
>    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>    > lug at leica-users.org>
>    > Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2016, 13:37
>    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>    >
>    > Impossible to give definitive answers as we all work differently, not
>    > aware of anybody on this list accidently getting their M9 into snapshot
>    > mode.... In fact, as there are (thankfully) so few options I doubt many
>    > use
>    > more than a single profile, if that.....
>    >
>    > john
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    >
>    > John,
>    > Your comments suggest you're not exactly best placed to offer conclusive
>    > answers! It would be good if others with personal knowledge and
>    > experience
>    > of the issue could respond.
>    > I'm disappointed to find a Leica camera accommodating a feature like the
>    > Snapshot Profile mode. It would damage my photography, but seems easy to
>    > slip into accidentally. Can it be permanently disabled?
>    >
>    > Bob
>    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>    > lug at leica-users.org>
>    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 17:00
>    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>    >
>    > If it is similar to the M9 (never used an M-E) then there should be no
>    > danger of entering snapshot mode, never done it in nearly six years of
>    > M9
>    > ownership ;-)
>    >
>    > 1) Never felt the urge to find out what it does....
>    > 2) Doubt it
>    > 3) Never needed it
>    >
>    > john
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On
>    > Behalf
>    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
>    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 4:34 p.m.
>    > To: John McMaster; lug at leica-users.org
>    > Subject: Re: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>    >
>    > Hi John,
>    > Thanks for the link, unfortunately the thread is rather confused and the
>    > concluding comments not very re-assuring. I don't feel my 3 questions
>    > have
>    > been answered, I hope others on the list will be able to help.Thanks,Bob
>    >
>    >
>    > From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr>
>    > To: bob catchpole <bobcatchpole at yahoo.co.uk>; Leica Users Group <
>    > lug at leica-users.org>
>    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016, 15:34
>    > Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>    >
>    > Hi Bob, the last comment on this thread?
>    > http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/122980-how-to-deactivate-the-snapshot-mode-on-the-m9/
>    >
>    > john
>    >
>    > -----Original Message-----
>    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.fr at leica-users.org] On
>    > Behalf
>    > Of bob catchpole via LUG
>    > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2016 2:31 p.m.
>    > To: lug at leica-users.org
>    > Subject: [Leica] Snapshot Profile mode
>    >
>    > Hello list,
>    > I've just started using a digital Leica, the M-E. My questions are about
>    > the Snapshot Profile mode, which I'd personally like to have as little
>    > to
>    > do with as possible!
>    > 1) In the Snapshot Profile mode does the camera only shoot JPEGs?
>    > 2) Is there a risk of accidentally switching on the Snapshot Profile
>    > mode?
>    > 3) Is there a way of making sure the Snapshot Profile mode can't be
>    > switched on accidentally? Can it be permanently disabled?
>    > Thanks,Bob
>    >
>    >
>    >
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