[Leica] sensor corrosion

Sat Mar 12 17:45:36 PST 2016

Tina and all members,

It is really complicated have information from the Leica website, I went to the LFI Forum and it is announced the 1st September 2015 the replacement for M9 sensors, not yet for the MM, on this announcement there is a source, you click there and you obtain the Official Leica announcement, where they are talking about NEW sensors for the M9:

<http://en.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Update-CCD-Sensor>

However, a friend said me that the same thing has been announced about one or two months ago for the MM, even that Leica has said that they have a delay of 4 months replacing the sensors, the interested persons shall ask Leica to give them a reference number and date to send the cameras.

After this mail I will try to search the announcement for the MM

Cheers
Lluis

> El 13 març 2016, a les 0:53, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> va escriure:
> 
> Lluis -
> 
> This is the latest news I can find on Leica's site:
> 
> https://us.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Latest-information-CCD-sensors
> 
> Maybe they have finished all of the testing?
> 
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:01 PM, lluisripollphotography <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> As far as I know the new replaced sensors for the M9 and MM will be not
>> affected by corrosion. The new sensor for the M9 was announced maybe 10
>> months ago, and the new sensor for the MM has been announced about one or
>> two months ago, it was more difficult develop the new one for the MM and
>> for this reason it has appeared later.
>> 
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 12 març 2016, a les 22:47, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> va
>> escriure:
>>> 
>>> No, I'm right:
>>> 
>>> We have now identified the problem and are currently concentrating our
>>> efforts on finding a permanent technical solution. The marks on images
>>> mentioned earlier are related to the properties of the CCD sensor. The
>>> sensors are equipped with a specially coated IR filter cover glass to
>>> ensure optimum imaging performance. Should this coating layer be damaged,
>>> corrosion effects that alter the filter surface may begin to appear after
>>> several years.
>>> 
>>> The effect described does not affect the CMOS sensor of the Leica M (Typ
>>> 240). Should you be considering an upgrade from your camera to a Leica M
>> or
>>> M-P (Typ 240), Customer Care would be pleased to make you an attractive
>>> offer following a check of your camera and under consideration of the
>> model
>>> and its age.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't think so.  I think the new sensor is in the M240 and doesn't
>> apply
>>>> to the M9.  My understanding is that they will keep replacing the
>> sensors
>>>> for the M9 as long as they fail but they are still subject to
>> corrosion.  I
>>>> could be wrong, though.
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was under the impression that with the M9 they were now replacing the
>>>>> sensor with the long awaited "new" one developed rather than the same
>>>>> sensor???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> They will replace the sensor for free or give you an upgrade to the
>>>>> M240 and/or the M246. Replacing the sensor runs the risk of corrosion
>> again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I finally woke up to the possibility that this may be an issue with
>> my
>>>>> M9 and my M monochrome. Bob Adler has been very kind in helping with
>> some
>>>>> of the issues, and answering my questions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Has this been a common problem? Can one search for damage with a
>> slate
>>>>> grey sky instead of blue? What sort of refund can one expect if damage
>> is
>>>>> found? I assume the 246 is the trade in option for the monochrome,
>> what is
>>>>> the trade in option for the M9?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Other observations and your thoughts are appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> 
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