[Leica] A Photograph and a few comments about Orlando andthePhilly Gay Pride Parade

[Christopher Crawford]

I didn¹t see him say he was leaving, only that he didn¹t want to talk
politics here. Both of you have good points.

Documentary photography, like your work, and mine, often involves
political issues.

At the same time, it seems today that everyone wants to inject their
political views into everything. I¹m always amazed at comments I see on
news articles. There will be an article on some totally non-political
thing, like a story about a kid who collects baseball cards, and at least
one asshole will try to make it about Obama, or the Republicans, or some
other political bullshit. It gets tiresome. Not everything is political,
and there are lots of nonpolitical things people here on the LUG
photograph, like flowers and insects, for example.

If Jay wants to leave, he can. Its his decision. Would hate to lose him,
but that¹s not your fault or anyone else¹s if he does.

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Chris Crawford
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On 6/13/16, 9:05 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley"
<lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:

>Guys,
>
>Jay has said that he is unsubscribing from the list over this issue.  Am I
>wrong here?  How can you separate photography and politics?  That is the
>whole purpose of photography to me. I certainly did not intend for Jay to
>leave the list over this, though!  :-(
>
>Tina
>
>On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How can you look at the photographs and not discuss the issues!!!  I
>>don't
>> understand that at all.
>>
>> What is the point of posting controversial photographs of what is
>> happening in the world if you don't discuss them!
>>
>> Sorry, but that is not my idea of what the LUG is all about.  Should we
>>be
>> discussing the lighting in Jim's photo or whether he should crop out the
>> bottom to improve the composition?  I don't think so. I think we should
>>be
>> discussing what the photo is about, why Jim took it, why it is
>>important,
>> and what we can do about the situation.  That is why I take photographs.
>> To make a difference.  Not to hang on some gallery wall.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tina, you misunderstand. When did I say ANYTHING about NOT wanting to
>>>see
>>> photographs of political and contemporary issues and their ensuing
>>> discussion?
>>>
>>> I was referring to the growing length of discussion attached to the
>>> original of this thread that was getting severely off the topic of this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> Things such as marching with buckets of blood to throw.
>>> Things such as discussions about another countries firearms policies.
>>> And more.
>>>
>>> I understand the anger and passion, and the fact people are wont to ask
>>> questions of their friends in search of possible answers.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer to do that elsewhere.
>>>
>>> I'd like to look at & discuss photographs (political and otherwise)
>>>here.
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/13/2016 5:19 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>>>
>>>> Politics affect our photography.  If it doesn't, it should!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but I will continue to post political photographs which are
>>>> extremely important today.  This photo of Jim's will be more important
>>>> than
>>>> anybody's photos of flowers or shadows or artistic masturbation.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't understand the importance of photography to political
>>>> issues,
>>>> you can ignore all of my future posts.  In fact, please do.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I look at these posts for photos & discussion with friends about
>>>>> photography.
>>>>> Please take politics and gun politics somewhere else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you kindly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jay
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>
>> 
>>http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA
>>91/Tina+Manley.html
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>-- 
>Tina Manley
>www.tinamanley.com
>tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA9
>1/Tina+Manley.html
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