[Leica] Touristy cameras

Thu Feb 4 16:00:07 PST 2016

Yep, that's what it says on his /real/ birth certificate.

On 2/4/2016 4:24 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:
> I thought our President was a Muslim🕌🐻
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>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>> I do not think so. I think your politicians and press demonize Iran too
>> much for short term political gain. I have a few friends who have been
>> going in there regularly for the last 10 years, and what I say is based on
>> their first hand experience. I reiterate that, IMHO, your rather random and
>> brutal police is more to be feared than Iran's for a casual visitor,
>> especially if the colour of your skin is not lily white. Their religious
>> theology is not much different from strains of Christian theology prevalent
>> in the southern states of USA either. It is a democratic country that holds
>> regular elections as well. Before you come at me with the religious nature
>> of the elections, can you imagine a Muslim as President of USA?
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  From all that I have heard, Iran is probably safer than the USA for a
>>>> visitor. Methinks a biased press brainwashes rather thoroughly! :-)
>>>
>>> safer from the people is one thing, safer from the authorities another. It
>>> may even be that they are reciprocally related.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Use black tape.
>>>>> 2. Have Tom carry 1 camera and you carry another. 2 Tourists
>>>>> 3. Don't go off alone PLEASE! Stay on the well beaten tourist path with
>>> a
>>>>> guide if you can...
>>>>> We love you!! Come back safely.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>>> Sure looks like the CREW want to be sure you & Tom come home with all
>>>>> your
>>>>>> gear and images!
>>>>>> We, most of us, know of your travel time abroad over the years and if
>>>>>> anybody will be properly prepared it would be the two of you!
>>>>>> My biggest concerns are not from the everyday folks, but from those
>>>>>> controlling and running the country and their obvious relations to
>>> other
>>>>>> countries  and regimes ?  :-(
>>>>>> I suppose in reality, I can only offer you & Tom my most best wishes
>>> and
>>>>>> safe return.
>>>>>> Hopefully keeping life in the KISS mode everyday will? maybe? make life
>>>>>> easier?
>>>>>> cheers & safe travels. I'm already dying to hear how it all went!  :-)
>>>>>> ted  :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Larry Zeitlin via LUG
>>>>>> Sent: February-03-16 9:08 AM
>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Touristy cameras
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted and Nathan are right on. A friend of mine is head of security at a
>>>>>> major NYC airport and tells me that new Leicas are rarely carried by
>>>>>> tourists. Especially a couple of them. They will assume that you are
>>>>> either
>>>>>> a photojournalist or intend to sell the cameras on the black market. If
>>>>> you
>>>>>> must carry a Leica choose an old beat up one, especially with the
>>>>> vulcanite
>>>>>> flaking off. And leave those very expensive lenses at home. Airport
>>>>>> security personnel are not stupid and know the value of Leica and Zeiss
>>>>>> optics. If you must carry a precision camera, choose a Canon, Nikon or
>>> an
>>>>>> Olympus, preferably an older model. And whatever you do, don't carry
>>>>>> anything which uploads a picture directly to wi-fi. Sorry, but that's
>>> the
>>>>>> way it is.
>>>>>> Larry Z
>>>>>> + + + +
>>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>>> Nathan hit this right on the mark!
>>>>>> Do not "Assume absolutely one iota of anything."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing for sure, with a couple of cameras, certainly a couple not
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> like tourist "selfie types you may get a little more attention than you
>>>>>> expect?" Then again? NADA!
>>>>>> Now remember my dear folks, we're not trying to spook you. Far from it,
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> hopefully assisting in a preparation thought process? Bottom line?
>>>>>> We want you to come home and tell us all "IT WAS A PIECE OF CAKE!"
>>> That's
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> perfectly.Have a good one!
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Sent: February-02-16 2:03 PM
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica MM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would not assume anything. Dictatorial regimes do not like
>>>>>> photojournalists (or any kind of journalists), especially from abroad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
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