[Leica] Touristy cameras

Thu Feb 4 09:55:11 PST 2016

> On Feb 4, 2016, at 9:29 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> I do not think so. I think your politicians and press demonize Iran too
> much for short term political gain. I have a few friends who have been
> going in there regularly for the last 10 years, and what I say is based on
> their first hand experience. I reiterate that, IMHO, your rather random and
> brutal police is more to be feared than Iran's for a casual visitor,
> especially if the colour of your skin is not lily white. Their religious
> theology is not much different from strains of Christian theology prevalent
> in the southern states of USA either. It is a democratic country that holds
> regular elections as well. Before you come at me with the religious nature
> of the elections, can you imagine a Muslim as President of USA?

I suspect that what you say Jayanand is correct, we certainly do hear much that teaches us to fear the worst. Tina’s knowledge of Iran  and your friends’ experience there, may be far closer to the fact.  It is funny that after years of being favorable to Iran, and the Shah, who was of course our ally,  things have changed, or have they?  We shall see. Thank you.

steve

> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:35 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From all that I have heard, Iran is probably safer than the USA for a
>>> visitor. Methinks a biased press brainwashes rather thoroughly! :-)
>> 
>> 
>> safer from the people is one thing, safer from the authorities another. It
>> may even be that they are reciprocally related.
>> 
>> steve
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 1. Use black tape.
>>>> 2. Have Tom carry 1 camera and you carry another. 2 Tourists
>>>> 3. Don't go off alone PLEASE! Stay on the well beaten tourist path with
>> a
>>>> guide if you can...
>>>> We love you!! Come back safely.
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>> Sure looks like the CREW want to be sure you & Tom come home with all
>>>> your
>>>>> gear and images!
>>>>> We, most of us, know of your travel time abroad over the years and if
>>>>> anybody will be properly prepared it would be the two of you!
>>>>> My biggest concerns are not from the everyday folks, but from those
>>>>> controlling and running the country and their obvious relations to
>> other
>>>>> countries  and regimes ?  :-(
>>>>> I suppose in reality, I can only offer you & Tom my most best wishes
>> and
>>>>> safe return.
>>>>> Hopefully keeping life in the KISS mode everyday will? maybe? make life
>>>>> easier?
>>>>> cheers & safe travels. I'm already dying to hear how it all went!  :-)
>>>>> ted  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Larry Zeitlin via LUG
>>>>> Sent: February-03-16 9:08 AM
>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Touristy cameras
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted and Nathan are right on. A friend of mine is head of security at a
>>>>> major NYC airport and tells me that new Leicas are rarely carried by
>>>>> tourists. Especially a couple of them. They will assume that you are
>>>> either
>>>>> a photojournalist or intend to sell the cameras on the black market. If
>>>> you
>>>>> must carry a Leica choose an old beat up one, especially with the
>>>> vulcanite
>>>>> flaking off. And leave those very expensive lenses at home. Airport
>>>>> security personnel are not stupid and know the value of Leica and Zeiss
>>>>> optics. If you must carry a precision camera, choose a Canon, Nikon or
>> an
>>>>> Olympus, preferably an older model. And whatever you do, don't carry
>>>>> anything which uploads a picture directly to wi-fi. Sorry, but that's
>> the
>>>>> way it is.
>>>>> Larry Z
>>>>> + + + +
>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>> Nathan hit this right on the mark!
>>>>> Do not "Assume absolutely one iota of anything."
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thing for sure, with a couple of cameras, certainly a couple not
>>>>> looking
>>>>> like tourist "selfie types you may get a little more attention than you
>>>>> expect?" Then again? NADA!
>>>>> Now remember my dear folks, we're not trying to spook you. Far from it,
>>>>> just
>>>>> hopefully assisting in a preparation thought process? Bottom line?
>>>>> We want you to come home and tell us all "IT WAS A PIECE OF CAKE!"
>> That's
>>>>> it
>>>>> perfectly.Have a good one!
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ted
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Sent: February-02-16 2:03 PM
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica MM
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would not assume anything. Dictatorial regimes do not like
>>>>> photojournalists (or any kind of journalists), especially from abroad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>> 
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