[Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!

[RicCarter]

I do notice that they charge for all their products.

in the immortal words of Frank Zappa,
“Now, who they jivin' with that cosmic debris?”

ric carter



> On Dec 11, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> Good for you, proper & polite response.
> cheers,
> Dr. ted  :-) 
> PS: If they all work for free? How do they get their food, clothes & beer?
> Pay their rent or mortgage? Buy their cars? And when you check them out on
> GOOGLE and see they are an international RIP-OFF organization? Do they also
> get "FREE AIR TRAVEL?" HOTELS ETC.?
> Dr. ted  :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Peter Klein
> Sent: December-11-16 2:10 PM
> To: lug
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!
> 
> Thanks for all the comments.  Of course I said "no."  Here's my reply to 
> them and their response:
> 
> ------ I wrote --------------
> The answer is no. And you might consider that by basing your calendar 
> business on the "work for free" model, you are furthering an economic 
> model that is devaluing all creative work and contributing to a decline 
> in all the arts.
> 
> 
> ----- they replied ----------
> Thank you your reply. We are sorry we won't be able to present your photo.
> We all work for free as a labor of love, so the "work for free" model is 
> very familiar to us, but we certainly understand your point of view.
> 
> Best of luck in all your endeavors, and blessed holidays!
> ----------------------------
> 
> --Peter
> 
>> LUG:  I just received the following "flickrmail" request to publish one
>> of my photographs in a calendar.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at N04/5265537626/
>> For free, of course.  Here's the note I received"
>> 
>>    "We have seen your touching photograph shown in the link below, and
>>    would love to include it in our Prayer & Meditation Calendar 2018,
>>    which can be seen here: PrayerMeditationCalendar.org. Due to budget
>>    constraints, our nonprofit universal spiritual organization
>>    publishes this calendar each year largely through the kindness of
>>    photographers who donate their images. All of us serve as unpaid
>>    volunteers to further the cause of love and unity among all beings.
>> 
>>    "We offer to send a calendar to the photographers and provide the
>>    credit lines they prefer. Would an arrangement like this be
>>    agreeable to you? If so we will need the image highest res & 300 ppi
>>    on the shortest side, your preferred credit line and your mailing
>>    address."
>> 
>> The signer has a one year-old flickr account with no photographs. This
>> is the organization involved:
>> http://truthconsciousness.org/about/truth-consciousness-organization/
>> And I found this:
>> http://www.westword.com/news/hide-the-swami-5055176
>> 
>> Anyway, it made me feel pretty low.  If my work is only of value to scam
>> artists and bottom-feeders, and only if I give it away, why bother?
>> 
>> --Peter
> 
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